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[Handlogten's Heros]

Multiple possible mass shootings have been stopped by armed guards.

I'm sure this is true... I'll bet it does even provide a psychological affect that prevents some crimes... just like security cameras. Gun control and mental health measures have proven very effective in other countries too... lets go ahead and do it all.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

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[LoPo]

This is not true lmao.

Maybe you live in a very small population area with tiny school districts or something, but your experience is in no way accurate to the entire south.

But yeah, most schools have one main entrance where everyone is directed to go (lawfully), but like many republicans like to point out, laws dont actually matter lmao. Anything is an entrance if you want it to be.

Williamson County Tennessee. One of the most popular places to live in the country. County schools are all built as one big building.

If you want to get argumentative, you could talk about sports fields access, but those doors should be monitored when students are heading back inside. SRO (Student Resource Officers) should be monitoring this door. And another at the main entrance.

Nothing is perfect, but protect the schools best you can. Taking away all guns is impossible.

 

[LogGrad98]

Just give one of the moms a gun and let them go in and handle that ****.

Did you see the Mitchells vs. the machines? Just let a few moms in and they'll take care of ****.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Williamson County Tennessee. One of the most popular places to live in the country. County schools are all built as one big building.

If you want to get argumentative, you could talk about sports fields access, but those doors should be monitored when students are heading back inside. SRO (Student Resource Officers) should be monitoring this door. And another at the main entrance.

Nothing is perfect, but protect the schools best you can. Taking away all guns is impossible.

The old movie theatres had two points of entry and we were still able to sneak in as dumb kids.

I think some of the on premise security stuff could help and I'm all for whatever helps.. but single entry is like treating cancer with some vitamin C... it may have some psychological benefits and may do us some good but we still have cancer. I'll take the vitamin C... but I still need the chemo.

Schools should be more safe than some community buildings... but if it isn't schools these idiots will shoot up churches, movie theatres, concerts. We can't confiscate all the guns but you can make it harder to get them. If someone has to get a gun illegally or make it (i guess this is a thing?) it will be a barrier to the crime... and I think that has to be the largest focus.

I also think mental health stuff should be at the forefront here. My experience with my daughter and her mental health issues has been eye opening. Schools, teachers, have been really hit or miss in being helpful and the level of effort we have put in has been a lot. I can't imagine if my wife was a working single mom or if we weren't vigilant parents that she would be getting the help she needs.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Did you see the Mitchells vs. the machines? Just let a few moms in and they'll take care of ****.

I did but I can't remember it all... I remember laughing my *** off though... will rewatch.

 

[LogGrad98]

I did but I can't remember it all... I remember laughing my *** off though... will rewatch.

The mom goes all mama bear and becomes a ninja. It's awesome.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

So I had a missionary companion who was in Columbine... was shot in the neck and left for dead. He was a great guy... ended up going home early when a kid shot a paintball gun at him when he was riding his bike. Triggered his anxiety to the point we couldn't leave the house.

He had dealt with it the best he could. Had large scars he was asked about and never afraid to tell people what happened but the PTSD got the best of him. I just wonder how many hundreds of kids and families are now crippled with fear in these schools.

 

[LoPo]

The old movie theatres had two points of entry and we were still able to sneak in as dumb kids.

I think some of the on premise security stuff could help and I'm all for whatever helps.. but single entry is like treating cancer with some vitamin C... it may have some psychological benefits and may do us some good but we still have cancer. I'll take the vitamin C... but I still need the chemo.

Schools should be more safe than some community buildings... but if it isn't schools these idiots will shoot up churches, movie theatres, concerts. We can't confiscate all the guns but you can make it harder to get them. If someone has to get a gun illegally or make it (i guess this is a thing?) it will be a barrier to the crime... and I think that has to be the largest focus.

I also think mental health stuff should be at the forefront here. My experience with my daughter and her mental health issues has been eye opening. Schools, teachers, have been really hit or miss in being helpful and the level of effort we have put in has been a lot. I can't imagine if my wife was a working single mom or if we weren't vigilant parents that she would be getting the help she needs.

Good post.

You have to do all things:

1. - make it hard to a get a gun

2. - identify and treat mental health, and inform those who need to know about mental health issues. I care about privacy, but I care about possible victims even more.

3. - protect everything you can - especially schools. There have been 27 school shootings this year. Paid staff, off duty officers/vets, volunteers, etc. should be used to protect these places regardless of how hard they are to protect


This is a war on multiple fronts.

 

[fishonjazz]

And I think all responsible gun owners that want guns for responsible reasons would agree. The NRA and some of the wackos think we should buy them like milk and eggs. They should be pushing the other side of the argument if they want to keep their guns.

I have a shotgun for sport (literally just shoot clay pigeons a couple times a year) and to teach my kids how to handle a gun. My FIL decided to buy all the dads handguns for christmas two years ago. We just have to fill in the paperwork and go down to the store etc. I haven't done it in spite of his constant reminders. There is enough paperwork that I don't want to do it.

I have two guns that were both gifts (one from my dad and one from my FIL) and I haven't shot either in years. I keep a can of bear mace and a short baseball bat by the front door.

 

[fishonjazz]

Multiple possible mass shootings have been stopped by armed guards.

Not the last two. The buffalo grocery store shooting also had an armed guard who was killed.

 

[fishonjazz]

I'm sure this is true... I'll bet it does even provide a psychological affect that prevents some crimes... just like security cameras. Gun control and mental health measures have proven very effective in other countries too... lets go ahead and do it all.

Whoa whoa whoa, you were on the right path when you agreed that more guns prevents some crimes but gtfo with that gun control stuff.