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SoUjazzfan said:
I'm happy for Exum. Seems like a nice guy and he's really had quite a journey looking for a place he fits. All the talent on Dallas takes the pressure off him and he can play loose.
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I'm also very glad for Exum, he has been unlucky in Jazz times.
He blossomed thanks to Zeljo Obradovic when he played with Partizan.
Luka passing him the ball when he is open, it synonymous with trust.
 
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HermanG said:
Tanking is the thing that fans are the most delirious about. Whenever a team loses a lot of games they are all of a sudden tanking. Like the fans go back in time and retrospectively make pretend that there were tanking decissions made on the 3-2 Spurs and 2-1 Pistons.

Wemby had too much marketing value and hype that any sane FO would ever call a tank in his rookie year. I mean SA fans will stay interested, but you can already see the national Wemby watch is slowly dying and they are putting a trash product to national TV. However they arent pulling all the stops to win as they arent playing their best lineups out there either. They want to either "win with the right guys" or then just lose to get access to better spare parts.

Detroit is even more sad since they are actually trying to find/play their best lineups. They just dont have enough good basketball players. They have a total lack of efficient high volume scorers. They are like we are: bad shooting turnover prone team with too many low IQ ballhandlers, except they are even worse in shooting than we are and are absolute hot trash in clutch situations (worst case of team yips ever). I mean get this: Detroits net rating in clutch minutes is -66.
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Detroit just sucks but when teams choose not to use cap space to functionally improve their teams that is an element of tanking. SA has done that the past couple years. When teams decide to employ strategies that will make them worse on court in the name of development… that is tanking. It’s not like the teams throw out the Benny Hill music and then go out there and intentionally lose games. It’s more subtle than that.
 
fishonjazz said:
Eh, they can not be tanking and then decide to tank some games later.

I hear Detroit isn't playing bogey. Kinda tanky

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Bogey was injured and missed the first 18 or so games, but has played 30.5 minutes per game since returning and has a -10.0 average BPM.

They are also getting him the ball almost as much as they did last season and he is shooting it well.... just that the team is so bad it just doesnt matter.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Detroit just sucks but when teams choose not to use cap space to functionally improve their teams that is an element of tanking. SA has done that the past couple years. When teams decide to employ strategies that will make them worse on court in the name of development… that is tanking. It’s not like the teams throw out the Benny Hill music and then go out there and intentionally lose games. It’s more subtle than that.
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It’s like barely after 5:30 where you are. Why are you awake?
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Detroit just sucks but when teams choose not to use cap space to functionally improve their teams that is an element of tanking. SA has done that the past couple years. When teams decide to employ strategies that will make them worse on court in the name of development… that is tanking. It’s not like the teams throw out the Benny Hill music and then go out there and intentionally lose games. It’s more subtle than that.
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You think SAS came into this year hoping for another top 5 pick? You think they want to tank with Wemby and with like 20 National TV games? Did they come in with losing intentions to get some great prospect in the 2024 draft?

No of course they didnt. This isnt the start they envisioned to the Wemby era. They are bad because their young guys are not winning players. If they could change that right now, they would do it in a heartbeat.

The fact that they dont sign some mid quality vets from FA proves nothing but the fact that they are not idiots.
 
infection said:
It’s like barely after 5:30 where you are. Why are you awake?
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I play basketball really early in the morning a few days a week lol. Sometimes hard to get going so I talk **** on the internet for a few before I leave.
 
HermanG said:
You think SAS came into this year hoping for another top 5 pick? You think they want to tank with Wemby and with like 20 National TV games? Did they come in with losing intentions to get some great prospect in the 2024 draft?

No of course they didnt. This isnt the start they envisioned to the Wemby era. They are bad because their young guys are not winning players. If they could change that right now, they would do it in a heartbeat.

The fact that they dont sign some mid quality vets from FA proves nothing but the fact that they are not idiots.
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Yes Pop has always cared about national TV games... its been his main focus throughout his years in SA. The NBA definitely didn't put all sorts or rules and processes in place because of something he started and spearheaded lol.

Yes... they are still accumulating talent and yes they punted on infinity cap space this offseason without making one real addition. That is what tanking looks like. They want another great prospect or two to pair with Victor/Sochan/Vassell. Did they want to lose this many in a row... probably not but they knew what they were doing.
 
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