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Wolves losing Kyle Anderson was a big deal. He’s the type of guy that smooths over injuries and multiple deficiencies. It’s a confluence of things but I still think they need a 6 week injury from Ant/Rudy/Randle? To miss the playoffs. We might get lucky if they land in the bottom part of the play in.
 
I still think Minnesota figures it out. I mean, they barely lost on the road to Boston. It's not like they are playing bad, they just arent the dominant team they were last year. I'm content with the pick being in the low 20's/high teens.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I still think Minnesota figures it out. I mean, they barely lost on the road to Boston. It's not like they are playing bad, they just arent the dominant team they were last year. I'm content with the pick being in the low 20's/high teens.
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They just recently lost to Portland back-to-back then followed that up with a loss to Toronto. They’re 8-8 and this was the easy part of their schedule. Not like they’re playing good. Look at their next 10 games. They’d be lucky to be 14-12 at the end of it.
 
Elizah Huge said:
They just recently lost to Portland back-to-back then followed that up with a loss to Toronto. They’re 8-8 and this was the easy part of their schedule. Not like they’re playing good. Look at their next 10 games. They’d be lucky to be 14-12 at the end of it.
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All road losses.
 
Elizah Huge said:
Bad road team generally isn’t a good team. Do I think they end up top-10 in the lottery? No. Can they hover around anywhere from 12-18? Yes. Wouldn’t be surprised if they were a play-in team at all.
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They haven’t had a real significant injury yet either. Got to think at some point one of Rudy/Ant/Randle misses a few games. Mike has had a toe injury and been in/out of the lineup recently… but they’ve been relatively healthy. If the hover around this area there is also the possibility the owners (whoever they are?) decide to make a move to cut salary by moving one of DD or maybe Randle.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I still think Minnesota figures it out. I mean, they barely lost on the road to Boston. It's not like they are playing bad, they just arent the dominant team they were last year. I'm content with the pick being in the low 20's/high teens.
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I don’t know if they figure it out or not but it’s not looking good. I also had basically 0 expectation or hopes that the pick would be higher than 25 so it’s all gravy to me.
 
KqWIN said:
The guy he’s replacing wasn’t exactly the most hardworking, winning player either. Some of their struggles can be attributed to Randle+DDV not being as good as KAT…though you could argue the combo of the two gives as much or more value. The real difference for the TWolves is the drop of in Mike/Rudy as individuals. Everyone is putting all the blame on Randle when in reality those two are getting older just like everyone else. Age does not care if it’s Randle or Towns next to them.
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Wolves give up 12.3 points less (per 100 possessions) with Rudy on the court than they do when he is off. That is in the 95th percentile in the NBA and also the best on/off mark of his career. Their drop in quality vs last year is clearly on defense and its not on Rudy... its one of the guys supposed to fill in when he is out.

Randle is in the 15th percentile in defensive on/off. Wolves allow 8 points per 100 possessions more when he is on the court, vs when he is off..

How is that Randle number even possible when you actually get to share the court by one of the best for so many minutes?
 
IMO the biggest issue with Minnesota is that Jaden McDaniels hasnt taken any kind of skill jump in the past few years. He's still a really bad offensive player who cant make plays or even hit spot up 3's reliably.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
IMO the biggest issue with Minnesota is that Jaden McDaniels hasnt taken any kind of skill jump in the past few years. He's still a really bad offensive player who cant make plays or even hit spot up 3's reliably.
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Yep, the idea of him is a lot better than the actual player.
 
HermanG said:
Wolves give up 12.3 points less (per 100 possessions) with Rudy on the court than they do when he is off. That is in the 95th percentile in the NBA and also the best on/off mark of his career. Their drop in quality vs last year is clearly on defense and its not on Rudy... its one of the guys supposed to fill in when he is out.

Randle is in the 15th percentile in defensive on/off. Wolves allow 8 points per 100 possessions more when he is on the court, vs when he is off..

How is that Randle number even possible when you actually get to share the court by one of the best for so many minutes?
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Rudy's on court defensive rating is the lowest percentile it's been since his rookie year. Rudy was so good on defense that he would carry anybody who he with. He's still great and one of the best in the league, but so far he's not at the level at the used to be. It's not his "fault", he has just
set a very high standard. If you don't think Rudy has dropped, I don't think you've given enough respect to him previously.

FWIW, his on/off court is also identical to what it was last year. They are worse in the minutes with Rudy on the court and in the minutes where he's off.

Handlogten's Heros said:
Wolves losing Kyle Anderson was a big deal. He’s the type of guy that smooths over injuries and multiple deficiencies. It’s a confluence of things but I still think they need a 6 week injury from Ant/Rudy/Randle? To miss the playoffs. We might get lucky if they land in the bottom part of the play in.
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Absolutely, besides the glue guy factor he's just a very good player (especially on defense). They are getting more from DDV than they lost from Anderson.
 
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