The official countdown til Dragic thread.

[Coach Ellis]

With our luck we'd give up the draft pick that ends up being the #1 pick. Lol

That's why teams protect picks now. The Jazz can protect the pick to keep that from happening. If they were to do top 10 protection (2015), top 5 protection (2016) and the lower of the 2017 between the Jazz/Warrior picks. Suns definitely get a 1st round pick and it likely ends up as the 2016 pick, which could possibly be better than other picks teams will likely offer.

 

[♪alt13]

 

[fishonjazz]

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[Stifle Tower]

That's why teams protect picks now. The Jazz can protect the pick to keep that from happening. If they were to do top 10 protection (2015), top 5 protection (2016) and the lower of the 2017 between the Jazz/Warrior picks. Suns definitely get a 1st round pick and it likely ends up as the 2016 pick, which could possibly be better than other picks teams will likely offer.

I'm not sure I'd only protect top-10 this season. There's a good chance the Jazz end up in the 11-12 range and the prospect pool is pretty good even that late. Best I'd offer for an UFA with less than a 25% chance of staying is the worse of the 2017 picks. But Suns aren't going to want a pick that far out.

Dragic is a great player. But bringing him in results in more wins and puts Dante back on the bench...unless you move him over to SG. Just not sure you want to mess up team chemistry and dynamics for a player who is extremely unlikely to remain.

 

[phippsj]

I'm not sure I'd only protect top-10 this season. There's a good chance the Jazz end up in the 11-12 range and the prospect pool is pretty good even that late. Best I'd offer for an UFA with less than a 25% chance of staying is the worse of the 2017 picks. But Suns aren't going to want a pick that far out.

Dragic is a great player. But bringing him in results in more wins and puts Dante back on the bench...unless you move him over to SG. Just not sure you want to mess up team chemistry and dynamics for a player who is extremely unlikely to remain.

I don't think the Jazz need more players to develop. We have enough. Exum is 3+ years out if he keeps playing like this, so there may be room to resign Dragic. I'd be happy if Dante could move back to the bench. Either way, we need a strong 3 rotation... Exum/Burks/Dragic would be good. Plenty of minutes for those three.

 

[Deleted member 848]

Will Kanter & Black Jesus be enough for Dragic?

I would even do Kanter and our unprotected GS pick.

A lineup of:

Dragic/Exum/Burke(if not traded)
Burks/Hood/Ingles
Hayward/LilSap
Favors/Booker
Gobert/Tomic

is simply too good to pass up.

If I'm Dennis Lindsey, here are my priorities for the next three years of this team:

- either trade for Dragic (my preference), or toss him a three year max contract a la Hayward.
- trade for, or offer Kris Middleton a 22 million/3yr contract.
- retain Booker
- Bring Tomic over

If Exum becomes a star, we can trade either Dragic or Burks. Black Jesus, unless initially traded for Dragic, can be our Microwave. Tomic is about as ideal of a third big for this team as I can think of. Booker gives us toughness.

I'm really hoping that Hood gives us Middleton numbers. It's really huge for this team-- we really need shooting desperately. It would be serious ca-relief if we didn't have to go for Kris.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Trading for Dragic without a guarantee to re-signing is beyond retarded.

I wouldn't trade Kanter for Dragic straight up without a guarantee. All it does it artificially inflate our record for half a season.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Dragic will get 15-20 M per year this offseason. He will be one of the hottest names on the FA market and a ton of teams will have space. We have no damned hope of keeping the guy if we traded for him... None.

Anyone citing the Iguodala and Bynum Howard deal in saying sometimes you need to take one year chances and hope for the best needs to review the results of that deal. The winner of that deal was the magic and it isn't close.

I'd rather have Isaiah Thomas with his low budget deal than take a chance on Dragic.

 

[Hotdog]

Trading for Dragic without a guarantee to re-signing is beyond retarded.

I wouldn't trade Kanter for Dragic straight up without a guarantee. All it does it artificially inflate our record for half a season.

Lol.

You really love Kanter. You just won't admit it.

I agree though. I'm not trading Kanter for him either. Unless there is some promise from him to re-sign.


We need to target someone on a rookie deal or draft picks.

 

[NAOS]

Getting Dragic could supremely lower the value of our upcoming pick + he could leave after this season. It's a stupid trade, IMO, and I'd love to have Dragic on the team.

 

[Deleted member 848]

Getting Dragic could supremely lower the value of our upcoming pick + he could leave after this season. It's a stupid trade, IMO, and I'd love to have Dragic on the team.

Would you rather have Dragic and UK's Booker? Or Super Mario (or perhaps Black Messiah if we jump into top 3) or Stanley Johnson or something.

 

[Deleted member 848]

Trading for Dragic without a guarantee to re-signing is beyond retarded.

I wouldn't trade Kanter for Dragic straight up without a guarantee. All it does it artificially inflate our record for half a season.

somebody should look into how often UFAs end up staying with the team they were traded to midway into their final seasons of their contracts.

I'm really of the opinion that Quin and Dennis could really sell Dragic on Utah. Especially with the role he would have, and the pieces around him.