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NUMBERICA said:
We could never know. But jump in a time machine and throw them on otherwise identical rosters and Hakeem would win handily as he was more skilled in the post and possibly the greatest defensive player of all time.
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My understanding is that Wilt was still sought-after even in his 40s.

If you tailor these identical rosters with good-great defenders, Wilt's team prevails in a series as he could basically carry an offense. If you tailor them with better offensive players, Hakeem anchors the defense better and takes the series.
 
dalamon said:
Hopefully you have the understanding that cases can be made for all 3 (Did Kareem ever win w/o Magic or the Big O? How come Wilt couldn't almost ever beat Russell?)
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Russell didn't beat Wilt. The Celtics beat the Lakers because they had the better team. I don't know if you ever saw Wilt play but he was way ahead of his time. Teams use to triple team the guy at times. He averaged 50 pts a game. That is with being a poor free throw shooter. How many championships did the Big O or Magic win without Jabbar? Hakeem use to struggle against Mark Eaton.

Hakeem was a great player but their is no way in hell he could have stopped Chamberlain. Hakeem was probable more like 6'10"-6'11. Certainly Hakeem is in the discussion regarding best centers but I put him 3rd or 4th behind Chamberlain, Jabbar, Russell and Hakeem. Hakeem's stats are not even close to both Jabbar and Chamberlain. To say Hakeem was the best defender is ignoring Russell.
 
PKM said:
I started from page 1 determined to read this entire thread. I failed hard.
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I made it to 3, then I simply fast forwarded and nothing struck my eyes as interesting. Joel Hans seems to be a controversial baller.
 
cowhide said:
Russell didn't beat Wilt. The Celtics beat the Lakers because they had the better team. I don't know if you ever saw Wilt play but he was way ahead of his time. Teams use to triple team the guy at times. He averaged 50 pts a game. That is with being a poor free throw shooter. How many championships did the Big O or Magic win without Jabbar? Hakeem use to struggle against Mark Eaton.

Hakeem was a great player but their is no way in hell he could have stopped Chamberlain. Hakeem was probable more like 6'10"-6'11. Certainly Hakeem is in the discussion regarding best centers but I put him 3rd or 4th behind Chamberlain, Jabbar, Russell and Hakeem. Hakeem's stats are not even close to both Jabbar and Chamberlain. To say Hakeem was the best defender is ignoring Russell.
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So you really think that Hakeem wouldn't have averaged 50ppg in the 60s? Especially seeing as he could hit free throws?
 
^^He would score over anyone from any spot on the floor at any time.^^

But would he build into that good of a player in the 60's.

My answer: No.
 
Honestly, Dream = top 5 all-time, I say top3. Rockets of the 90s were the only team that Jordan didn't have a winning record against IIRC
 
No one ever outclassed every matchup thrown at him like Hakeem. Shaq? Robinson? Ewing?
 
dalamon said:
Honestly, Dream = top 5 all-time, I say top3. Rockets of the 90s were the only team that Jordan didn't have a winning record against IIRC
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The Rockets were better than the Bulls. Jordan was just too good at whatever he did.

Also Hakeem was a better pick than Jordan. You never know what can come out of a player like Jordan. Even though the Bulls were lucky to get him at 3, Hakeem was the right choice at that time for the Rockets.
 
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