The official "let's impeach Trump" thread

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by colton, Jul 16, 2019.

  1. Gameface

    Gameface All-Jazzfanz First Team! Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    First, can you make an actual argument indicating that Trump has especially strong views on this being a nation of laws? If you do I'll put in the work to show the mountain of evidence showing he has a particular lack of concern for us being a nation of laws. Otherwise I'll just dismiss your false claim out of hand.

    Second, can you please connect the dots between Trump believing we're a nation of laws and that being the reason people think he's a racist? If you can I'll be happy to post the reasons I finally gave in and believe Trump is a racist. Until recently I was very careful to not make the assertion that he was in fact a racist, only that he was sympathetic to racists. He has definitely crossed the line for me and has demonstrated that he is a racist.
     
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  2. Heathme

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    He said go back to where you came from, fix the issues there and then come back and fix the problems here. He is not racist. I would definitely believe a member of his Cabinet and an African-American who works for him.

    I introduce Ben Carson, for those of you that don't know who he is:

     
  3. JazzGal

    JazzGal Well-Known Member Contributor

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    But they are American, so his statement was stupid at best and racist at worst. Spin it all you want, it was a ridiculous and horrid thing to say.
     
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  4. Heathme

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    It was not a nice thing to say. Fortunately I can hear from Ben Carson to know Pres. Trump is not racist.
     
  5. Zombie

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    When I'm looking for an unbiased source on Trump the first person I think of is someone dependant on staying in Trump's good graces to keep his job.

    In any case I don't need anyone to tell me whether what Trump has said was racist. From "**** hole countries" and "decent people" in Charlottesville to "go back where you came from" he's time and again shown exactly who he is.
     
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  6. Archie Moses

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    I wish I could rep you for this. This is beautiful.
     
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  7. Heathme

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    So dumb. Ben Carson was one of the country's greatest neurosurgeons, and has worked his *** off from extreme poverty to be who he is. He has no need to lie to keep his job. He did not even need the job in the first place. He is one of the most honest and sincere men I have ever heard.

    The old "decent people" bull crap. That is a debunked lie and it is sad that you are not aware of it. I have personally been in **** hole countries before. I personally would not call them that, but Trump is pretty blunt. Does not mean he is racist.
     
  8. Archie Moses

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    I don't think Trump thinks he's racist, but it's hard to argue he's not ignorantly racist.

    Who tweets go back to your country in 2019 and thinks it won't be called racist? An ignorant racist does.
     
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  9. Zombie

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    I hope the many conservatives and moderates chiming in here about why Trump sucks puts the coffin in the inane idea that people only hate Trump because they're liberals looking to gripe.
     
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  10. reignman40

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    How about we impeach the new disgusting, american hating, socialist/communist members of congress. They are dangerous to our way of life and our country.
     
  11. Archie Moses

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    What if you're alt right and hate Trump?

    Asking for a friend.
     
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  12. Zombie

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    It's not a "debunked lie" you realize there's video of him saying there were "nice people on both sides" right? Here's the complete quote

    Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."

    As for the **** hole countries thing, he was specifically talking about countries make up primarily of black people and in the same meeting suggested we needed more immigrants from countries "like Norway." It doesn't take a genius to put two and two together.
     
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  14. Harambe

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    Let's start. Who do you think these "progressive" Democrat women are?

    Besides progressive and Democrat and being women, what do these women have in common?

    Why do you think he said they hated America?

    Why do you think he said "go back to your country" specifically? Not town, state, or metropolitan area... Country?

    Let's dissect his past. Has he ever been called a racist before? Any descrimination suits or allegations?

    Family history or culture of racism?

    Let's talk Ben Carson. If trump was a racist, Why would he say otherwise? If you had a job that's making you millions indirectly through policy, would you call your boss a racist? A man who gave you a job you were dramatically unqualified for?

    Something untouched here is the case for him being misogynistic. Other than the four all being of color, they're all women calling out what they see as ********. How many times has he been accused of misconduct? Didn't he beat about assault?

    I understand there's going to be imperfect alliances. But at what point do you cut ties with someone?
     
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  15. Heathme

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    Debunked lie. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a...neo-nazis_fine_people_heres_proof_139815.html

    “Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.”

    After another question at that press conference, Trump became even more explicit:


    “I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.”
     
  16. DasJazz

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    He said to fix the issues from where you are from and then, and this is the real fun part, come back and show us how.

    Also, he never once used anyone's name or race in the tweet.
     
  17. Heathme

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    Why has it become racist, sexist, or misogynistic to fight against someone's poor policies or choices?
     
  18. colton

    colton All Around Nice Guy Staff Member

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    Yes, I don't think @White Chocolate understands this. They used to be released on their own recognizance until their asylum hearing was held, but that's not the case any more.
     
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  19. silesian

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    Yes that is the reason people don’t like trump. Nominated for post of the year. Thanks Fox for the mindless propaganda
     
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  20. Zombie

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    Yeah, just the other "very fine people" chanting "they will not replace us." There was absolutely no reason to "both sides" what happened in Charlottesville.
     

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