The official "let's impeach Trump" thread

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  1. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    On Wednesday night, Fox News host Tucker Carlson actually agreed with many media outlets and admitted that President Trump has been less than truthful with the American people. According to the Washington Post, as of last month, Trump had told over 13,000 false or misleading statements since taking office, including claims by the president and those in his administration that his was the largest inaugural crowd in U.S. history. After nearly three years, Carlson refuted that claim.

    “We’re not gonna lie to you, that was untrue,” Carlson said. “The crowd at the 2017 inauguration was not the largest ever measured at the National Mall. Sorry, it wasn’t. Why did the president claim that it was? Well, because that’s who he is.” Carlson went on to say, “Donald Trump is a salesman, he’s a talker, a boaster, a booster, a compulsive self-promoter. At times he’s a full-blown BS artist.”

    And though it may seem Carlson was trashing the president, he was actually making the case that it’s okay for Trump to be untruthful because “that’s who he is."
     
  2. babe

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    There is some factual basis in the Fox business that some young "turks" are assuming more control from the old guard. Fox is moving liberal, to be cool and with it generally. This is nothing but what anyone should expect, it's "The Way Things Are". However, some other conservative platforms are gaining steam and filling up the slack.

    I think Carlson is the BS artist, as much as anyone.....
     
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  3. fishonjazz

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    Conservative organization Republicans for the Rule of Law has called out President Donald Trump with yet another critical ad.

    In its new 32-second clip released online Wednesday, the group questions the White House’s refusal to allow key witnesses in the Ukraine scandal to testify before Congress in the impeachment inquiry that targets Trump.

    “These witnesses must testify,” the voiceover says of Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and former National Security Adviser John Bolton.

    “What is Trump afraid of?” the narrator adds.

    The ad is slated to air on Fox News’ flagship morning show “Fox & Friends” for several days.

    Republicans for the Rule of Law executive director Sarah Longwell said in a statement that the House impeachment hearings “have presented startling evidence” that Trump “abused his power, strong-arming a foreign government to interfere on his behalf in the upcoming election, and damaging national security in the process.”

    “The president denies the allegations, but won’t let key administration officials ― including Vice President Mike Pence, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, Energy Secretary Rick Perry, and White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney ― testify to Congress,” Longwell added. “If the president did nothing wrong, what does he have to hide? If they tell the truth, what is he afraid of? Most importantly, will Republicans in Congress allow the president to simply ignore their constitutionally mandated oversight role?”

    https://news.yahoo.com/republicans-for-the-rule-of-law-trump-hiding-ad-074743515.html
     
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  4. Harambe

    Harambe Well-Known Member Contributor

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    no evidence that the FBI spied on Trump's campaign

    There it is.

    Google it
     
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  5. babe

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    False. Extremely False.

    You aren't a lawyer, you haven't worked in law, apparently.

    The MSM liars used some very careful words, and then deliberately converted to an actual falsehood.

    The true statement was that the FBI did not actually implant agents within the Trump campaign. What they did do was criminal misconduct in their official actions. They lied to the FISA court, to get the warrant to listen in on email and phone to Carter Paige..... and then by the one hop rule, to anyone they ever contacted. That one hop meant they were listening in to everyone on Trumps team.

    The next criminal thing they did was illegally confide that information to persons who could use it in the DNC campaign.

    Look, Harambe. I know of quite a few criminal actions by federal employees in their official actions. It's an extensive problem we have got to prosecute. It affects people in the BLM, even. Damn straight.
     
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  6. babe

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    The Republican party does not have a Pelosi cracking the whip over marginal or dissident loyalists. Many Rs are involved in and willing to go along with a lot of the more progressive agenda.... and generally with the deeply convinced believers in stuff Trump just says no way to. So I don't give them credit for being objective or truthful. Let alone loyal.
     
  7. silesian

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    as his true believers swallow hook line and sinker, his propagandist tells it like it is.
     
  8. silesian

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    evidence or is this just more lies?
     
  9. The Thriller

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    When people criticize the impeachment hearings for failing to persuade Repubs to turn on Great Leader, keep this in mind:

     
  10. Zombie

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    Well yeah, Lincoln freed the slaves after all.
     
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  11. NPC D4617

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    And was a Republican.
     
  12. NPC D4617

    NPC D4617 Well-Known Member

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    I just googled it. Turns out they did. You just have to read the true news stories. Ignore the fake ones. Its messy out there.
     
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  13. The Thriller

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    LMFAO

    Woosh

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  14. NPC D4617

    NPC D4617 Well-Known Member

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    You mean SWISH!
     
  15. Gameface

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    Swish

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  16. Zombie

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    Ok, and?
     
  17. NPC D4617

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    And he helped free the slaves. Just a reminder before you sound off on Republicans being racist.
     
  18. Zombie

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    Wow that's such a good point. Thanks for this illuminating discussion.
     
  19. NPC D4617

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    No problem
     
  20. babe

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    Lincoln was asked to run by some NY bankers with Brit ties agore. Brit capitalist were funding abolitionists and secessionists. They figured to split the country and take Louisiana and the Mississppi river country, and stir up local quarrels between the States so they could cement the West. Czarist Russia sent a fleet to the Pacific to counter Brit navy attempts to corner that area, and Czarist Russia helped the abolitionist Lincoln in other ways, because of Brit intents to give aid to the South. The Amazing blockade the North established along the intercoastal waterways, and Norther industrial plants making all kinds of war materiel were crucial.

    So, yes, the Republicans were quite the same then as now, except then had Russian and French help rather than British.

    Lincoln lost favor with his banker support by actually fighting for the Union, and if we had lost, North America would be as Commonwealth as Australia. Slavery would have ended anyway. Even the Brits had gotten ashamed of that, what with all the Christian opposition and "No sugar in my tea" social crusades. The ultimate reason slavery would have ended is the industrial revolution. But it is a sort of ongoing issue, with the choice still open between increased technology with higher wages, or back-breaking unskilled labor and low wages.
     

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