The official "let's impeach Trump" thread

[Deleted member 365]

Yes....

I gotta be honest, this book is pretty worthless to me.

Prior to all of this Ukraine stuff? Sure. But I have a hard time believing this book will be any more revealing than what actual ambassadors and transcripts have provided in House testimony over these past few weeks. However, anything that can be piled onto trump and hopefully convince more people that he needs to go is A-Okay in my book.

If it’s what you say it is, I love it!

 

[Deleted member 365]

Hmmmm

sooooooooo this is their defense this week?

a. Abuse of power isn’t impeachable.
b. Ukraine didn’t know it was being blackmailed. Even though Taylor’s testimony from yesterday states that Ukraine knew it was being blackmailed and they knew that their president had to publicly announce they were looking into the Bidens in order to get the money.

Sigh

 

[Red]

I gotta be honest, this book is pretty worthless to me.

Prior to all of this Ukraine stuff? Sure. But I have a hard time believing this book will be any more revealing than what actual ambassadors and transcripts have provided in House testimony over these past few weeks. However, anything that can be piled onto trump and hopefully convince more people that he needs to go is A-Okay in my book.

If it’s what you say it is, I love it!

I imagine it will have some revealing sections. On the other hand, I've been aware a warning was in order since the day he and Melania descended the escalator in Trump Tower to announce his candidacy....

 

[fishonjazz]

Which one of these examples do you think is equivalent to Hunter Biden? You were the guy who didn't see my Biden example as relevant to what's going on with Trump, yet now you feel like just because the stories you have pointed out involve children and money (and no other similarities that I'm aware of) that they are equivalent to the Biden situation?

The issue with Biden is using his dad's political stature to get a job to make money.
Trump's kids do it too. That's the equivalency.

Or do you think Trump's kids have to get the exact same job as Hunter for the exact same salary to make the comparison?


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[One Brow]

Still nothing I see.

Thank you for letting us know the extent of your vision.

 

[colton]

sooooooooo this is their defense this week?

a. Abuse of power isn’t impeachable.
b. Ukraine didn’t know it was being blackmailed. Even though Taylor’s testimony from yesterday states that Ukraine knew it was being blackmailed and they knew that their president had to publicly announce they were looking into the Bidens in order to get the money.

Sigh

Yep. I liked this comment.

 

[colton]

Read the last sentence.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

Damn, joe got pwned on that comment lol


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The Biden situation of leveraging his dad's position to make money?

I'm pretty sure I already did that.

The nepotism one is clearly completely different. The investment one is regarding a real estate company that his son-in-law owns a portion of but does not manage or control. The company is doing today exactly what it did before Trump was president. If monies are coming into it in order to influence Trump that should be looked into, but it does not appear to be similar to the Biden deal either way. The emoluments argument I know is exciting to never-Trumpers, but everyone knew long before Trump was elected that he had extremely complex international business interests. It would be virtually impossible not to have some impact on them, positive or negative, when dealing with international politics. I agree that looking into various instances is prudent and reasonable, but just throwing a blanket over the idea of emoluments and claiming that he must somehow be in violation is not.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

The issue with Biden is using his dad's political stature to get a job to make money.
Trump's kids do it too. That's the equivalency.

Or do you think Trump's kids have to get the exact same job as Hunter for the exact same salary to make the comparison?


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I think that if you have an example of Trump's kids getting jobs doing something they have no experience or credentials for (other than the ability to sell influence) that you'd have a very valid comparison.

 

[Zombie]

The nepotism one is clearly completely different. The investment one is regarding a real estate company that his son-in-law owns a portion of but does not manage or control. The company is doing today exactly what it did before Trump was president. If monies are coming into it in order to influence Trump that should be looked into, but it does not appear to be similar to the Biden deal either way. The emoluments argument I know is exciting to never-Trumpers, but everyone knew long before Trump was elected that he had extremely complex international business interests. It would be virtually impossible not to have some impact on them, positive or negative, when dealing with international politics. I agree that looking into various instances is prudent and reasonable, but just throwing a blanket over the idea of emoluments and claiming that he must somehow be in violation is not.

The question isn't necessarily about whether the individual we're talking about has influence in the company getting foreign money, but if they have influence in the US government. Kushner is working as a foreign policy advisor in the White House ffs! To make matter worse the money his company received went through a bank in the cayman Islands so we don't even know who it came from. To make matters worse still Kushner lied about his stake in this company on disclosure forms and was denied security clearances over it (Trump later overrode this decision).


Hoenstly, just read this.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/10/jared-kushner-real-estate-cadre-goldman-sachs

 

[Zombie]

I think that if you have an example of Trump's kids getting jobs doing something they have no experience or credentials for (other than the ability to sell influence) that you'd have a very valid comparison.

I must have forgotten about all the foreign policy and expertise in middle eastern affairs Ivanka and Jared have lol. Come. On.

 

[fishonjazz]

I think that if you have an example of Trump's kids getting jobs doing something they have no experience or credentials for (other than the ability to sell influence) that you'd have a very valid comparison.

See zombies two most recent posts

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