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The official "let's impeach Trump" thread

Gameface said:
Let's address this ridiculous narrative that impeachment is used to undo an election.

If Trump is impeached and removed... Hillary doesn't become President. The election is not reversed or undone. Pence would become the President. That's how that works.

Trump is such a ****ing turd that despite his entire Presidency being impeachable we've lowered the standard of the office so that Trump has to do something beyond the pale for Trump, not for a President of the United States of America. Since The U.S. elected a pile of steaming **** the standard now is that the pile of **** has to do something that's reprehensible even for a steaming pile of ****.

That's where we're at. And since Trump set the bar on the ****ing ground to begin with there's pretty much no way he can sink so low as to disappoint his followers.
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This.
So genius that only ****ing idiots would fall for it.

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Political Jazz Fan said:
republicans....were not given the chance to .....ask questions of the witnesses that the democrats provided
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We all saw republicans ask questions of each witness.

dude, your lies are so easy to refute. Start working on building some credibility. The truth is a good place to begin.
 
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reignman40 said:
Well she didn't win because she's well... The people decided that on election night.

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Again, you complained that people wanted to impeach Trump since day one.
I'm pointing out that it isn't only something that happens with Trump. In fact with a two party system that's extremely partisan and both sides hate the other it's actually quite common.
Simple solution? Don't give them anything to impeach you for.
You should be mad at Trump for providing material.

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Political Jazz Fan said:
Start working with the man and get something done for our country. How about that?

Seriously, Democrats suck. Waste our tax money and time.
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And trump is now caving in to pelosi on a daily basis. Expanding Govt employee benefits and ballooning the deficit so that he can have a space force to further balloon the deficit.

and he caves to China, getting temporary minor concessions in exchange for some soy bean sales.

he is trying to get some points on the board to run on but giving away the farm to the socialists and Chinese.

I wonder if trump is really a socialist Manchurian candidate?



winning????
 
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For all of today’s political drama, I must say it is very entertaining seeing trumpists get their panties in a bunch over young women and girls.

I think AOC is almost always wrong and Greta is naive. But I’m happy that their generation has people to give them a voice, I am happy to debate them on these issues, and I don’t find them at all threatening.

I mean we are talking about some deep seated insecurity that borderlines on psychosis.
 
Gameface said:
I'm also mostly in favor of the trade war with China. Should have happened before now. It was going to happen sooner or later. Sucks that Trump is the one calling the shots, because of how stupid he is, but good thing it is happening.
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The trade war with China has always been a Democrat issue and Trump stole it from them, then in typical Dem fashion they now hate it and criticize it.

Thats probably another reason more people will go to the side of Trump. Suddenly being against what you were for not the long ago, and its about benefitting the middel class and the economy, isnt the best way to win elections.
 
NPC D4617 said:
The trade war with China has always been a Democrat issue and Trump stole it from them, then in typical Dem fashion they now hate it and criticize it.

Thats probably another reason more people will go to the side of Trump. Suddenly being against what you were for not the long ago, and its about benefitting the middel class and the economy, isnt the best way to win elections.
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Huh, reading through the left Democratic jazzfanz and I'm not really seeing much criticism about the trade war with china from posters.

Keep following your flock though and repeating what they tell ya too

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SCS said:
Trump will be impeached by the house.

Trump will be acquitted by the senate.

Trump will be re-elected in 2020.

Democrats played themselves big time.
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colton said:
Yeah.

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Republicans realize the precedent they’re setting right now essentially erases impeachment from our constitution, right? A Democratic President can now do everything trump has done and as long as he/she has just enough support in the senate, he/she can always point to senators like Graham as an example for Democratic senators to follow.

Tomorrow’s president who commits high crimes and misdemeanors might be substantially more competent than Trump. And if today’s senators enable Trump’s behavior by not taking this trial seriously, they’re inviting tomorrow’s president to be an unconstitutional dictator.

Don’t they realize there’s more to life than just the next election? Our democracy and constitutional way of life is weighing in the balance. So why are people like graham and Mcconnell doing this? If the GOP is takes heavy losses in 2020, including their own seats, they can either retire as rich former senators or go on to be big lobbyists, think tank leaders, or Fox News guests. Right?

The only rational reason I see why people like Graham are acting this way is because they have a corrupt view on the culture wars. Like Barr, they feel like the only thing holding back the godless, gay, brown, Spanish speaking, socialist horde, is trump.

This, or maybe they’re just corrupt evil men who just really don’t care about American democracy? The ends (making money and maintaining power) justify the means (throwing american democracy away)

what do you think?
 
fishonjazz said:
Huh, reading through the left Democratic jazzfanz and I'm not really seeing much criticism about the trade war with china from posters.

Keep following your flock though and repeating what they tell ya too

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Im not talking about on Jazzfanz. In general the Democrats used to care that China was stealing our jobs. At least it was with the voters. You dont think the working class who is at least half Democrat, didnt have a problem with losing jobs and the economy suffering? Its why Trump with all his faults still got elected. Its why half the Democrats moved to the right, and the other half moved to the left. The people with brains that didnt like where things were headed, and still wanted American opportunity, chose the Trump side. Also, those same people grew up, and usually when you grow up you lean more right. Thats a fact. So again, Trump with all his faults still got elected because it is an important issue.

I will give you a few more examples of how Trump stole issues from the left.

First, I think we can agree that the left has made some big strides the last 20 years in their agenda. Kudos to them. Some are really important issues. But now the script is getting flipped.

1. The left was the ideology that has always pushed for more freedom of expression. Whatever that may be. Now its the right trying to protect that. Trump is the result of the left pushing for being ok with vulgarity, braggadocio, promiscuity, humor, etc.. He is what the left has always wanted out in the open, and not behind the disguise of religious purity. Now the left is championing silencing freedom of expression. The left made their bed, they can sleep in it now.


2. Racism - the left is now out in the open and in the business of being racists. The right now i leading the fight.

3. The left used to be for women's rights. Now they are not and have put them at the bottom of the victim hierarchy. The right more than ever now is for women's rights. They are championing the cause.

The left has been reverse psychologied.

It is now cooler to be a Republican. Used to be the other way around. The left was edgy. The Republicans were the nerds. Thats has completely flipped. You are the ill informed nerd now. Snort snort he he.

#Blexit

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The Thriller said:
Republicans realize the precedent they’re setting right now essentially erases impeachment from our constitution, right? A Democratic President can now do everything trump has done and as long as he/she has just enough support in the senate, he/she can always point to senators like Graham as an example for Democratic senators to follow.

Tomorrow’s president who commits high crimes and misdemeanors might be substantially more competent than Trump. And if today’s senators enable Trump’s behavior by not taking this trial seriously, they’re inviting tomorrow’s president to be an unconstitutional dictator.

Don’t they realize there’s more to life than just the next election? Our democracy and constitutional way of life is weighing in the balance. So why are people like graham and Mcconnell doing this? If the GOP is takes heavy losses in 2020, including their own seats, they can either retire as rich former senators or go on to be big lobbyists, think tank leaders, or Fox News guests. Right?

The only rational reason I see why people like Graham are acting this way is because they have a corrupt view on the culture wars. Like Barr, they feel like the only thing holding back the godless, gay, brown, Spanish speaking, socialist horde, is trump.

This, or maybe they’re just corrupt evil men who just really don’t care about American democracy? The ends (making money and maintaining power) justify the means (throwing american democracy away)

what do you think?
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Except you are completely wrong on this. The Senate is doing its job correctly. The majority in the house is setting the dangerous precedent that they can impeach for anything, that includes employing the help of the FBI to make of fake crimes on a sitting president.

That is what people should really be worried about. If the FBI can do this to the president then you can be damn sure they will do it to you. Very sad and dark times the Democrats are putting us through right now.
 
NPC D4617 said:
Im not talking about on Jazzfanz. In general the Democrats used to care that China was stealing our jobs. At least it was with the voters. You dont think the working class who is at least half Democrat, didnt have a problem with losing jobs and the economy suffering? Its why Trump with all his faults still got elected. Its why half the Democrats moved to the right, and the other half moved to the left. The people with brains that didnt like where things were headed, and still wanted American opportunity, chose the Trump side. Also, those same people grew up, and usually when you grow up you lean more right. Thats a fact. So again, Trump with all his faults still got elected because it is an important issue.

I will give you a few more examples of how Trump stole issues from the left.

First, I think we can agree that the left has made some big strides the last 20 years in their agenda. Kudos to them. Some are really important issues. But now the script is getting flipped.

1. The left was the ideology that has always pushed for more freedom of expression. Whatever that may be. Now its the right trying to protect that. Trump is the result of the left pushing for being ok with vulgarity, braggadocio, promiscuity, humor, etc.. He is what the left has always wanted out in the open, and not behind the disguise of religious purity. Now the left is championing silencing freedom of expression. The left made their bed, they can sleep in it now.


2. Racism - the left is now out in the open and in the business of being racists. The right now i leading the fight.

3. The left used to be for women's rights. Now they are not and have put them at the bottom of the victim hierarchy. The right more than ever now is for women's rights. They are championing the cause.

The left has been reverse psychologied.

It is now cooler to be a Republican. Used to be the other way around. The left was edgy. The Republicans were the nerds. Thats has completely flipped. You are the ill informed nerd now. Snort snort he he.

#Blexit

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Like I'm reading that mumbo jumbo lol

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To sum this whole thread up.

The Democrats want people to be ok with lowering the standard to at which you should impeach a president(by alot), just because its Trump. Just because you don't like him. Some are ok with this. Some are not. The standard has gone so low that it is now ok to openly collude with the FBI and verifiably lie to courts to get spying warrants, also concoct conspiracies. As if that is a totally normal thing to do in politics now.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...ecret-court-trump-campaign-column/4383722002/

I dont know how you dont read that article and not see this. And thats is an editorial left leaning news outlet. Meaning, that is as good as they could spin the story.
 
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