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The official "let's impeach Trump" thread

Gameface said:
Does NPR get government money?

If they do I'll happily quadruple my current monthly contribution to help them continue to exist without government support.
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Since Pompeo asked Kelly, “Do you really think Americans give a **** about Ukraine”, Russian leaders are using Pompeo’s comments to hurt America’s relationship with Ukraine. They’re using Pompeo’s comments as propaganda to hurt us in the eyes of Ukrainians while trying to pull Ukraine back into the Russian sphere of influence.

This is why having a bunch of compromised idiots head our government is bad. Example 12,472,938,264 on why Russia isn’t our friend. No matter how much Trump thinks Putin likes him.

 
The Thriller said:
i love it when people who haven’t touched the Mueller report and just watch Fox news dismiss Russian intervention, the Trump campaign’s abnormal amount of Russian contacts, obvious call outs (“Russia if you’re listening...”), numerous campaign friends in prison/gearing up for trials, and Trump’s 11 cases of obstruction of justice as “Russian Fiasco.”



Lol “Fiasco.” Riiiiight.
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Oh, so this is why charges from the Mueller report are part of the articles of impeachment?

Face it. The entire Russian fiasco was very, very different than the story the people who were pushing it claimed it was going to be.
 
Red said:
"It can't happen here". Until it does....

https://www.thedailybeast.com/king-trump-wants-heads-on-pikes-the-gop-cant-wait-to-oblige?ref=scroll

It’s almost—and call me crazy— like the gangster government of Donald Trump, the supine Republicans in his Senate caucus, his eager political fellators in the House, and the degraded claque of Trump-right media ball-washers have decided to go all-in on the new Trump thugocracy now aborning.

And why not? The decision by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell to make the Senate impeachment trial of Donald Trump an exercise in raw power politics is grinding toward its foregone conclusion.

The creation of a new form of American government, where the executive branch is permanently and utterly above the law, oversight, and accountability is upon us, and the exoneration of Trump in the Senate is the moment that historians will look back on and say, “There. Right then. That was the tipping point.”

The weaponization of the departments of Justice, State, and Treasury into formidable arms of the Trump Organization is nearly complete. Bill Barr isn’t an Attorney General; he’s the Enforcer General of the unitary and puissant executive branch.

And it’s all because Republicans in the Senate don’t have the courage God gave the common rat.

Senate Republicans are going to let Trump skate, and permanently realign the balance of power in the process, because they’re too chicken**** to stand up to his tweets, too terrified of a primary by some MAGA nutters, and too dumb to understand they’re ushering in an era that looks like nothing we’ve ever seen in this country.

This is a one-way ticket, a ratchet toward a system that rewards a culture of threats by bullies and thugs like Trump with their desired outcome. It peels back the cowardice and weak-dick posturing of the Senate GOP like little else. They’re willing to ditch it all because they’re scared.
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This ranting is utter misinformation. If you want to impeach a sitting president, you need to allege and produce evidence of an actual crime. Alleging executive abuse of power over investigating Ukraine corruption is approaching the absurd.
 
Soooo this is something ive been thinking about for weeks but just haven’t posted. But since when did it become cool or acceptable to refuse to tell Congress key information because you’d rather make money writing a book? It’s not every presidency that has massive scandals and Congressional investigations. But I always imagined that if Congress wanted your information, you’d give it. Either out of fear of consequences or because of pride in one’s country.

This is so disturbing on so many levels:

 
Catchall said:
This ranting is utter misinformation. If you want to impeach a sitting president, you need to allege and produce evidence of an actual crime. Alleging executive abuse of power over investigating Ukraine corruption is approaching the absurd.
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Please more accurately describe what Trump was attempting to do in Ukraine, because "investigating Ukraine corruption" is an entirely dishonest way of phrasing that.

An investigation of Ukrainian corruption would be run through the State Department, not his personal lawyer.

An investigation would include an investigation, not simply an announcement of an investigation.

An investigation would not be a condition to release previously approved aid that IS NOT the executive's prerogative to withhold.

Try to be honest. Even a small attempt at honesty would look way better on you.
 
Gameface said:
Please more accurately describe what Trump was attempting to do in Ukraine, because "investigating Ukraine corruption" is an entirely dishonest way of phrasing that.

An investigation of Ukrainian corruption would be run through the State Department, not his personal lawyer.

An investigation would include an investigation, not simply an announcement of an investigation.

An investigation would not be a condition to release previously approved aid that IS NOT the executive's prerogative to withhold.

Try to be honest. Even a small attempt at honesty would look way better on you.
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You'd think after he took the last few months off from posting here he’d have better arguments. Or at least arguments that reflected the latest Republican spin. Instead, he’s recycling disinformation from early October that even the Trumpiest Republicans have long since abandoned.

He might as well bring up how Clinton ordered the hit on Seth Rich and how Obamacare is gonna kill grandma with death panels. Or ACORN. Remember that word? Boy that sure was scary back in the day. What was that about anyway?
 
Catchall said:
This ranting is utter misinformation. If you want to impeach a sitting president, you need to allege and produce evidence of an actual crime. Alleging executive abuse of power over investigating Ukraine corruption is approaching the absurd.
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When morons like @Catchall claim that Trump was interested in corruption and not about hurting his political opponent...

 
Catchall said:
If you want to impeach a sitting president, you need to allege and produce evidence of an actual crime.
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Untrue.

If the president showed up to meetings with world leaders wearing a clown costume and started eating the couch that a leader of a foreign country was sitting on, you don't think he could be impeached? I'm pretty sure he could be. Eating couches and wearing costumes aren't against any law as far as I know.

An extreme example but there you go. No crime has to be committed. The president is different than you or I and is ( should be) held to a higher standard that a normal citizen. Rightfully so.


Oh and by the way, Trump has already been impeached lololololololol
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Joe Bagadonuts said:
Face it. The entire Russian fiasco was very, very different than the story the people who were pushing it claimed it was going to be.
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Since I read at least 5 different ways people were pushing the Mueller report, it's not a surprise 4 of those ways didn't happen.

However, resulting or not resulting in impeachment is a poor standard for an investigation.
 
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