The official "let's impeach Trump" thread

[One Brow]

... and not a positive word from hardly any body on the left. Absolutely none here

Perhaps you should read the actual left, not the right-wing distortions thereof.

 

[Gameface]

Again, the treatment of Al Franken says otherwise.

He was a promising Democrat figure. It wasn't a small sacrifice. He might have been eyeing a Presidential run at some point.

The condemnation came mostly from fellow Democrats who called for his resignation. He did not need to be forced from office. He resigned.

 

[JazzyFresh]

Perhaps you should read the actual left, not the right-wing distortions thereof.

Show me in this very forum please. I've been here a long time and none of you antiTrumps ever said a positive word.

I dare you to prove me wrong.

 

[One Brow]

Show me in this very forum please. I've been here a long time and none of you antiTrumps ever said a positive word.

I'm sorry, but it's not worth my time to go find the positive things I've said, in particular, about Trump's actions on criminal justice and pulling back from foreign military actions. I've said multiple times I prefer Trump to Pence. If you choose to believe these statements never occurred, I'm perfectly fine with that.

 

[fishonjazz]

The guy had the economy booming, record unemployment, 60% of the country doing better, signed prison reform, signed the allocation of money to black colleges and signed an executive order against human trafficking, went to war with Mexican cartels and not a positive word from hardly any body on the left. Absolutely none here

Trump is fighting a class of people who will stoop to any level to hate him. But of course he should be nice and greatful to people who hate him around every corner.

He would get praise if he changed his childish behavior.
It's pretty simple really.

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[Gameface]

Show me in this very forum please. I've been here a long time and none of you antiTrumps ever said a positive word.

I dare you to prove me wrong.

I absolutely have said positive things about trump. **** me im on my phone. I will post from my pc.

I have said several times that the U.S. needed to confront China on currency manipulation and trade practices. It should have happened under Bush for sure, since it didn't happen then it became urgent under Obama's administration and he did NOTHING.

I think it is unfortunate that it has been as mish mash and blunt force trauma as it has been, but Trump did something that absolutely needed to be done. It needed to be done 12 years ago. I'm not sure HRC would have faced it.

I also have said that I was initially encouraged by Trump's handling of PRNK. I likened it to a scared straight type strategy. Unfortunately Trump didn't close the deal and PRNK is back up to their old tricks with no meaningful progress at all having been made.

I don't give President's much credit for the economy. I think Apple, Intel, Google, Amazon, etc have 100x more influence on what our economy does than the President. I also can see clearly that something like a pandemic can undo the best (or worst) efforts of any administration. So the economy thing wasn't impressive to me when the economy was good... please don't try to impress me with Trump's 3rd quarter point lead when he's back to even with time running out in the 4th quarter and the momentum is strongly NOT in his favor.

Unlike OB, I would welcome Pence with open arms instead of Trump. I don't like him, not at all. But the position of POTUS is one that needs competence and Pence would be a competent POTUS. That matters to me more than party. I want a competent, smart, rational person to be our president because I think it has very real national security implications. I think Republicans are in general just as capable of leading this nation competently as Democrats are in general (I actually give the edge to Republicans on that, but when most Democrats are competent enough I can make a decision based on more than that one thing).

Trump has done very little well. He has not shown a great ability at "getting deals done" or any of those things he's supposed to be good at.

He's a braggart, I've been completely dumbfounded by how much that seems to impress people. It turns me all the way off. But that is the thing I would say is his #1 skill. He claims victory when he has failed. He shifts blame when he falters. He takes credit for random positive occurrences. He tells everyone how smart he is, how successful he is and how cunning he is, even when the facts suggest otherwise. Impressing people with that type of bravado and braggadocio is easily his biggest accomplishment of his administration.

 

[fishonjazz]

I absolutely have said positive things about trump. **** me im on my phone. I will post from my pc.

I have said several times that the U.S. needed to confront China on currency manipulation and trade practices. It should have happened under Bush for sure, since it didn't happen then it became urgent under Obama's administration and he did NOTHING.

I think it is unfortunate that it has been as mish mash and blunt force trauma as it has been, but Trump did something that absolutely needed to be done. It needed to be done 12 years ago. I'm not sure HRC would have faced it.

I also have said that I was initially encouraged by Trump's handling of PRNK. I likened it to a scared straight type strategy. Unfortunately Trump didn't close the deal and PRNK is back up to their old tricks with no meaningful progress at all having been made.

I don't give President's much credit for the economy. I think Apple, Intel, Google, Amazon, etc have 100x more influence on what our economy does than the President. I also can see clearly that something like a pandemic can undo the best (or worst) efforts of any administration. So the economy thing wasn't impressive to me when the economy was good... please don't try to impress me with Trump's 3rd quarter point lead when he's back to even with time running out in the 4th quarter and the momentum is strongly NOT in his favor.

Unlike OB, I would welcome Pence with open arms instead of Trump. I don't like him, not at all. But the position of POTUS is one that needs competence and Pence would be a competent POTUS. That matters to me more than party. I want a competent, smart, rational person to be our president because I think it has very real national security implications. I think Republicans are in general just as capable of leading this nation competently as Democrats are in general (I actually give the edge to Republicans on that, but when most Democrats are competent enough I can make a decision based on more than that one thing).

Trump has done very little well. He has not shown a great ability at "getting deals done" or any of those things he's supposed to be good at.

He's a braggart, I've been completely dumbfounded by how much that seems to impress people. It turns me all the way off. But that is the thing I would say is his #1 skill. He claims victory when he has failed. He shifts blame when he falters. He takes credit for random positive occurrences. He tells everyone how smart he is, how successful he is and how cunning he is, even when the facts suggest otherwise. Impressing people with that type of bravado and braggadocio is easily his biggest accomplishment of his administration.

Great post. I agree with all of it

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[Joe Bagadonuts]

I have seen many of the jazz fans people on the left who care about it already
I know that doesn't fit your narrative though so you choose not to see those posts I'm sure.
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I'm not choosing not to see them. Since you are aware of them, please point them out to me.

But the bigger point is, at what point will the mainstream media begin informing the public about these accusations? My guess is it will happen once they have figured out a way to replace Biden with someone they believe actually has a shot at beating Trump.

 

[Zombie]

I'm not choosing not to see them. Since you are aware of them, please point them out to me.

But the bigger point is, at what point will the mainstream media begin informing the public about these accusations? My guess is it will happen once they have figured out a way to replace Biden with someone they believe actually has a shot at beating Trump.

I'm pretty sure my post was the first on the forum about it FWIW. I think there are a lot of reasons why it's not breaking through in the media, some of it's timing, some of it is probably due to political pressure, and the right wing media is probably sitting on it until closer to November.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

I'm pretty sure my post was the first on the forum about it FWIW. I think there are a lot of reasons why it's not breaking through in the media, some of it's timing, some of it is probably due to political pressure, and the right wing media is probably sitting on it until closer to November.

Jazzy Fresh (I think) has been bringing it up a lot, but people simply say he's trolling and ignore it. It feels very different from the way people reacted to the Kavanaugh accusations. But like I already said, I expect the left to jump on this story in the most self-rightous and congratulatory way imaginable once they have a replacement in place.

 

[infection]

Jazzy Fresh (I think) has been bringing it up a lot, but people simply say he's trolling and ignore it. It feels very different from the way people reacted to the Kavanaugh accusations. But like I already said, I expect the left to jump on this story in the most self-rightous and congratulatory way imaginable once they have a replacement in place.

“We didn’t wait on this. There was a world-wide pandemic happening. These things take time to verify and you must be meticulous. Once that all came together, we acted. [Now pivot to talking about republicans].”

But I’m glad they’ve acted on Bernie’s sexism.

 

[fishonjazz]

I'm not choosing not to see them. Since you are aware of them, please point them out to me.

But the bigger point is, at what point will the mainstream media begin informing the public about these accusations? My guess is it will happen once they have figured out a way to replace Biden with someone they believe actually has a shot at beating Trump.

Well since we are all informed currently the answer to your question is that it's already happened.

There is this tiny little newsworthy thing going on right now called a pandemic. News seems to be talking a lot about it for some reason

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