The official "let's impeach Trump" thread

[Deleted member 365]

So, let’s just say that Obamagate is real. If so and the problem is a president using his powers to investigate others, isn’t that pretty much the Trump playbook? The president can do whatever he wants, right?

A stupid argument and the R’s know it.

correct. you’re absolutely right. It really doesn’t matter what the previous president did or didn’t do as less than 5 months ago Donald’s lawyers argued that presidents could do anything.

In very Orwellian fashion, Donald is attacking a president for actually caring about national security while gaining nothing personally. While Donald’s argument is that his selfish actions in blackmailing Ukraine That only benefitted his re-election were for national security. I mean George Orwell literally couldn’t make this up.

Do Trumpers think we’re as stupid as they are? Like we all remember that Donald fired Flynn, right?

 

[Avery]

correct. you’re absolutely right. It really doesn’t matter what the previous president did or didn’t do as less than 5 months ago Donald’s lawyers argued that presidents could do anything.

In very Orwellian fashion, Donald is attacking a president for actually caring about national security while gaining nothing personally. While Donald’s argument is that his selfish actions in blackmailing Ukraine That only benefitted his re-election were for national security. I mean George Orwell literally couldn’t make this up.

Do Trumpers think we’re as stupid as they are? Like we all remember that Donald fired Flynn, right?

For lying to Pence. Because lying is bad.

Voters aren’t going to care about scandals in November real or make believe. They only care about their jobs and their 401k and not dying.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Sometimes we just need to take a step back and reflect on the ******** that Donald is forcing down our throats. Preet Puts things into perspective here. Just crazy how desensitized we’ve become.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Anyone else wonder if Senator Burr is being investigated because he crossed Trump? That’s the problem with Trump and Barr politicizing the DOJ. Now we don’t know if people are being investigated for crimes or because they crossed Trump. Nice job Republicans.

 

[PJF]

 

[Deleted member 365]

The Trump administration unmasks 10,000+ people a year. So why would unmasking Flynn suddenly be a scandal? He was talking to Russians about sanctions prior to Trump’s inauguration, right? Soooooo...

 

[Red]

Democrats getting caught red handed in a 3 year + long attempted coup of the president of the United States and his associates and yet somehow in your eyes this is some alternative reality situation.

Well, in some ways, you're right. It is not the norm for Democrats to actually be called to task on their treasonous actions but here we are, with documentation to back up the DOJ etc.

Looking forward to the hammer dropping on all of these treasonous thugs, including Obama.

For your edification. Should you choose, of course. But, if you choose to allow the liars and con men to condition your opinion, rest assured History will not agree with you.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a32434676/obamagate-trump-james-comey-hillary-clinton/

We are poised to embark on another cycle of stupid, as the president makes up another dumb thing and everyone pretends to take it seriously and Weigh the Evidence of whether this obviously phantasmagorical ******** actually happened. This time, it's "Obamagate," a truly meaningless portmanteau the president really tried to make happen as part of his 126-tweet Mother's Day episode, a more than 24-hour meltdown and a bang-up use of time during a global pandemic when the United States' response is among the worst in the world. Already, you can feel the credulous Objective News Media headlines coming: "President Trump Accuses Obama of Worse Than Watergate." Never mind whether there is any evidence for it, or whether it even makes any sense at all.
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The Atlantic has put together an excellent guide to the rise of irrational theories in 21st century America:

https://www.theatlantic.com/shadowland/

A sampling. The lesson being that none of us are acting responsibly when we contribute to the trend herein described. It is injurious to our nation.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/05/shadowland-introduction/610840/

“Trump does not defend our democracy from the ruinous consequences of conspiracy thinking. Instead, he embraces such thinking. A conspiracy theory—birtherism—was his pathway to power, and, in office, he warns of the threat of the “deep state” with the ferocity of a QAnon disciple. He has even begun to question the official coronavirus death toll, which he sees as evidence of a dark plot against him. How is he different from Alex Jones, from the conspiracy manufacturers of Russia and the Middle East?

He lives in the White House. That is one main difference.

This improbable question—how did a person with a weakness for conspiratorial thinking achieve the presidency?—might be among the most consequential of the coming election, which is not merely a political contest, but a referendum on enlightenment values and on reality itself.

Nonsense is nonsense, except when it kills. And conspiracy thinking, especially when advanced by the president of the United States, is an existential threat.“

 

[Red]

For your edification. Should you choose, of course. But, if you choose to allow the liars and con men to condition your opinion, rest assured History will not agree with you.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a32434676/obamagate-trump-james-comey-hillary-clinton/

We are poised to embark on another cycle of stupid, as the president makes up another dumb thing and everyone pretends to take it seriously and Weigh the Evidence of whether this obviously phantasmagorical ******** actually happened. This time, it's "Obamagate," a truly meaningless portmanteau the president really tried to make happen as part of his 126-tweet Mother's Day episode, a more than 24-hour meltdown and a bang-up use of time during a global pandemic when the United States' response is among the worst in the world. Already, you can feel the credulous Objective News Media headlines coming: "President Trump Accuses Obama of Worse Than Watergate." Never mind whether there is any evidence for it, or whether it even makes any sense at all.
-----------------------------
The Atlantic has put together an excellent guide to the rise of irrational theories in 21st century America:

https://www.theatlantic.com/shadowland/

A sampling. The lesson being that none of us are acting responsibly when we contribute to the trend herein described. It is injurious to our nation.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/05/shadowland-introduction/610840/

“Trump does not defend our democracy from the ruinous consequences of conspiracy thinking. Instead, he embraces such thinking. A conspiracy theory—birtherism—was his pathway to power, and, in office, he warns of the threat of the “deep state” with the ferocity of a QAnon disciple. He has even begun to question the official coronavirus death toll, which he sees as evidence of a dark plot against him. How is he different from Alex Jones, from the conspiracy manufacturers of Russia and the Middle East?

He lives in the White House. That is one main difference.

This improbable question—how did a person with a weakness for conspiratorial thinking achieve the presidency?—might be among the most consequential of the coming election, which is not merely a political contest, but a referendum on enlightenment values and on reality itself.

Nonsense is nonsense, except when it kills. And conspiracy thinking, especially when advanced by the president of the United States, is an existential threat.“

I don't realistically expect any Trump sycophant or apologist to understand this. I do believe the truth will out. But I expect it will be a very long painful road to that destination. It will be up to a better informed future generation of Americans to come to terms with understanding how it was possible for their forebears to have gone so far off the rails, to have abandon reason, to have trashed discriminating intelligence, to have left unrealized the ability to distinguish truth from propagandized-oriented fiction. But for now, the struggle will be very difficult, and I do not expect Trump apologists to understand how damaging Post Truth is to a government dependent on an informed electorate to function in a manner that can be described as healthy.

 

[Deleted member 365]

I wish stupid Trumpers like @Heathme would answer these questions:

what’s the crime here? What was wrong with unmasking Flynn? What was wrong with the letting Trump know that Flynn was compromised?

instead of flooding this forum with ********, answer basic questions.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Oh what does this guy know?

Oh, former chief of operations against Russia for the CIA? Oh...



Clearly, in order to distract from
His administration’s flailing response to the pandemic, Donald is now going after our nation’s protective immune system. He’s attacking those who work as counterintelligence to protect us from bad actors in Russia. As explained here:



Nice job republicans.

 

[RandyForRubio]

I don't have an issue with the unmasking.

Adam Schiff blatantly lying though...that's pretty bad.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

Let me propose a scenario:

Two Native American Indian tribes approach two different forests.

1. The first tribe is told by its chief to cut down the forest and build him mansion. The tribe will be blessed in the afterlife for their work or damned for not working. The chief and a handful of his friends live in the mansion while the majority of the tribe continue to live outside without any shelter.

2. The second tribe is told by its chief to cut down the forest to provide housing for the tribe. The tribe builds necessary housing and farming that improves the lives of the tribe.

Would you say that both chiefs are the same?

Would you say that the second chief was merely pandering to stay in power or working to resolve necessary issues? Or working to improve the lives of his citizens?

I would say that your examples don't bear any resemblance whatsoever to the real world.