The official "let's impeach Trump" thread

[babe]

There is a CNN flavored cool-aid? Yum yum yum, slurp slurp slurp, gulp gulp. Oh it tastes sooooo good. Oh, give me more, I want more more more. So sweet, so delicious.

Who actually gives half a **** about CNN?

Do you Trumpsters imagine the same sort of superpowers you think Hillary has are also bestowed upon CNN?

How many villains do you need? How many shadowy figures are required before your narrative starts making sense? How many supernatural entities are required before your theories become possible?

I mean, you could just like accept reality as a thing. But you do you.

well, reality is whatever it is.

The news is something else. I mean, actually, the news is lies, because humans have interests and will screw with the narrative however they think they need to.

This is your usual brain fart so far as dealing with your narrative goes. You imagine vast hordes of humans have to work out some kind of unified plan to create a false narrative. No plan is required. We are social creatures with a predilection for conformity. It naturally requires some reason to decide to not conform.

I was inclined to be a contrarian before there was a Trump, so my views really have nothing to do with being a "Trumpster". Most people who voted for Trump were just sick of what their government was to begin with. If Trump sails off into private life for any reason, or if some imbecile gets his big shot off successfully, there will still be DeepStaters enough to keep us sick of the way things are in Washington DC. Until govermnet officials develop some respect for the governed, there will be plenty of reasons not to conform. Probably never will happen.

 

[Gameface]

well, reality is whatever it is.

The news is something else. I mean, actually, the news is lies, because humans have interests and will screw with the narrative however they think they need to.

This is your usual brain fart so far as dealing with your narrative goes. You imagine vast hordes of humans have to work out some kind of unified plan to create a false narrative. No plan is required. We are social creatures with a predilection for conformity. It naturally requires some reason to decide to not conform.

I was inclined to be a contrarian before there was a Trump, so my views really have nothing to do with being a "Trumpster". Most people who voted for Trump were just sick of what their government was to begin with. If Trump sails off into private life for any reason, or if some imbecile gets his big shot off successfully, there will still be DeepStaters enough to keep us sick of the way things are in Washington DC. Until govermnet officials develop some respect for the governed, there will be plenty of reasons not to conform. Probably never will happen.

Let's just stop with your first sentence.

Reality is whatever it is.

Reality is real. Reality exists.

Live there.

 

[babe]

I don’t watch CNN. Any other brilliant ideas? Go tend to your cattle.

OK, I think you've said as much before. Not sure if you understand figurative expressions. CNN is just an "archetype" for stupid news. Pretty sure stupid news is practically the whole atmosphere of our time. Cows actually don't need to be bothered much. I mean, if they have water and grass enough. They probably consider me something like a fake cowboy.

 

[babe]

Let's just stop with your first sentence.

Reality is whatever it is.

Reality is real. Reality exists.

Live there.

really, you just need to stop bothering yourself with trying to manage others. Well, I don't care much what you do or say. I realize it's useless to argue with you. From the time you objected to my standard take on Machiavelli, which of course was never any more rooted in actual reading of The Prince than just a borrowed negative archetype for a scheming manipulator in political endeavors, I have realized you have a huge investment in your political bearings and just resent the hell outta anyone who won't roll over for your abuse.

 

[Gameface]

really, you just need to stop bothering yourself with trying to manage others. Well, I don't care much what you do or say. I realize it's useless to argue with you. From the time you objected to my standard take on Machiavelli, which of course was never any more rooted in actual reading of The Prince than just a borrowed negative archetype for a scheming manipulator in political endeavors, I have realized you have a huge investment in your political bearings and just resent the hell outta anyone who won't roll over for your abuse.

I disagree with plenty of people who I don't abuse.

 

[silesian]

OK, I think you've said as much before. Not sure if you understand figurative expressions. CNN is just an "archetype" for stupid news. Pretty sure stupid news is practically the whole atmosphere of our time. Cows actually don't need to be bothered much. I mean, if they have water and grass enough. They probably consider me something like a fake cowboy.

Nice try.

No cable, and I don’t watch news.

I do listen to Bloomberg podcasts, so if you want to rudely dismiss my points by implying that I am parroting the media, you might want to start there.

Or you could just debate the points on their merits. A novel idea, I know.

Moo.

 

[silesian]

OK, I think you've said as much before. Not sure if you understand figurative expressions. CNN is just an "archetype" for stupid news. .

Thanks for your explanation on figurative language. I had not never heard of this concept. My whole life, I’ve been assuming everything i read is the literal truth.

And here is the thing about archetypes. They have to exist somewhere outside of your head, or your readers may believe that CNN means “CNN”. Literally.

You are welcome. I’m happy to help.

 

[silesian]

The Prince than just a borrowed negative archetype for a scheming manipulator in political endeavors.

Anyone want to guess the word of the day on babe’s calendar?

 

[Harambe]

Anyone want to guess the word of the day on babe’s calendar?

I'm going with the word "than" instead of then.

 

[Red]

Uh oh



First Coates now Gordon. Looks like there’s a purge going in in the Dept or Ntl Security.

Good thing that dept isn’t important or anything...

Both Rep. Schiff, of House Intelligence, and Sen. Warner, of Senate Intelligence, understand the devastating blow these twin departures represent. And Republicans understand full well that Trump is making every effort to cripple the Intelligence agencies, and make them compliant to him, rather then offer him truthful analysis. So, the question will be: will the Republican senate confirm a new DNI who is nothing but another Trump yes man? From what I understand, listening to the news regarding Gordon's departure, if she stayed in her job as Assistant DNI, the law required that Trump elevate her to DNI. Therefore, we can be certain Trump forced her resignation.

Again, it will be up to Senate Republicans to decide if they will allow Trump to appoint a lackey Trump loyalist to be the DNI. Trump's pick for Acting DNI is experienced in Intelligence, but not to the extent of Gordon.

Bottom line: Trump is putting his needs above the national security of the United States. No wonder Rep. Nadler indicated yesterday an Impeachment inquiry is now open to address Trump's efforts to aggrandize power in the Executive branch, unto himself, ignore checks and balances, and the Constitutionally granted power of oversight of the Executive by Congress, etc. But, IMO, putting the needs of our national security secondary to his personal political interests should itself be an impeachable offense.

https://thehill.com/policy/national...elligence-officials-retirements-a-devastating

How do Trump supporters justify a president who puts his personal ambitions above the national security interests of their country? How?

 

[silesian]

I'm going with the word "than" instead of then.

That is correct. But the real question is: what does "than" mean figuratively? Because it is clearly being used as an archetype.

 

[Red]

Yesterday, both Sen. Sherrod Bown and Dayton, Ohio Mayor Nan Whaley characterized Trump the same way I've been characterizing him for quite awhile now, because I think it cuts to the heart of the matter: Trump is a bully, and all bullies are cowards:

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/dayton-mayor-nan-whaley-response-trump-tweets-ohio-hospital-visit

"When pressed on her response to Trump accusing her and Brown of “misrepresenting what took place inside of the hospital” on CNN Wednesday night, Whaley called Trump “a bully and a coward.”

“It’s fine if he wants to bully me and Sen. Brown — we’re OK, we can take it — but the citizens of Dayton deserve action,” Whaley said. “We’re just hoping that this isn’t just a typical politician that’s all talk and no action. The citizens of Dayton want to see him do something around some common sense gun legislation.”



And conservative icon George Will, who left the Republican Party over Trump, made the same general point, in a recent column, by highlighting a quote attributed to Eric Hoffer:

https://www.unionleader.com/opinion...cle_b334d6b5-7143-5d18-a98e-553a20bcb19c.html

"Eric Hoffer (circa 1898-1983), the longshoreman philosopher, said that “rudeness is the weak man’s imitation of strength.” This anticipated the essential fact about the 45th President — Trump’s fascination with what he utterly lacks and unconvincingly emulates: strength. Hence his admiration for foreign despots, and his infantile delight in his own bad manners."

Boy, that really says it all, and that's the man the cult of Trump worships....