The official "let's impeach Trump" thread
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Eugenics for the win!
Red
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To which Trump added his signature characteristic, not endemic to conservatives, but certainly endemic to Trumpism:
The Cruelty Is the Point
Trump and his supporters find community by rejoicing in the suffering of those they hate and fear.
www.theatlantic.com
“The cruelty of the Trump administration’s policies, and the ritual rhetorical flaying of his targets before his supporters, are intimately connected. As Lili Loofbourow wrote of the Kavanaugh incident in Slate, adolescent male cruelty toward women is a bonding mechanism, a vehicle for intimacy through contempt. The white men in the lynching photos are smiling not merely because of what they have done, but because they have done it together.
We can hear the spectacle of cruel laughter throughout the Trump era. There were the border-patrol agents cracking up at the crying immigrant children separated from their families, and the Trump adviser who delighted white supremacists when he mocked a child with Down syndrome who was separated from her mother. There were the police who laughed uproariously when the president encouraged them to abuse suspects, and the Fox News hosts mocking a survivor of the Pulse Nightclub massacre (and in the process inundating him with threats), the survivors of sexual assault protesting to Senator Jeff Flake, the women who said the president had sexually assaulted them, and the teen survivors of the Parkland school shooting. There was the president mocking Puerto Rican accents shortly after thousands were killed and tens of thousands displaced by Hurricane Maria, the black athletes protesting unjustified killings by the police, the women of the #MeToo movement who have come forward with stories of sexual abuse, and the disabled reporter whose crime was reporting on Trump truthfully. It is not just that the perpetrators of this cruelty enjoy it; it is that they enjoy it with one another. Their shared laughter at the suffering of others is an adhesive that binds them to one another, and to Trump.”
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This article is pretty incredible. There is a major divide between Christian religious beliefs and teachings vs what white American Christians believe are Christian beliefs and teachings. It’s like many of them have a perverse sense of what it actually means to be a good conservative Christian. Hint, it shouldn’t mean being a bigot, deadbeat dad, or obsessed with guns.
Red
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You might also find this three part look at Trump and Christian Nationalism enlightening. It’s from a few years ago, and it’s likely I posted it to one of the Trump threads at the time it was published.
Joe Bagadonuts
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Is there actual evidence of this claim that the article is making or is this yet another example of some so-called journalist dreaming up the worst possible motive that Trump might have theoretically had and then ascribing it to him as if it is fact?One Elie Mystal of The Nation pulls no punches...
The Deaths of 150,000 Americans Are on Trump’s Hands
Trump and his lackeys are guilty of criminal negligence, if not far worse. Who will hold them accountable?www.thenation.com
“Trump and his administration should be treated like mass murderers. Vanity Fair reports that Jared Kushner may have decided to scuttle a national testing plan because the deaths were, at the time, heavily skewed towards “blue” states with Democratic governors. If true, that behavior should be viewed as a crime against humanity. No, it is not the killing fields; it is not the Armenian genocide; it’s not the gulag or any number of recent horrors of history. But I would argue that it could meet all three elements required to go before the International Criminal Court: It’s persecution against an identifiable group, as well as an inhumane act “intentionally causing great suffering, or serious injury to body or to mental or physical health”; it’s a systemic “attack” against a civilian population; and it’s done with knowledge of the attack.“
How Jared Kushner’s Secret Testing Plan “Went Poof Into Thin Air”
This spring, a team working under the president’s son-in-law produced a plan for an aggressive, coordinated national COVID-19 response that could have brought the pandemic under control. So why did the White House spike it in favor of a shambolic 50-state response?www.vanityfair.com
“But the effort ran headlong into shifting sentiment at the White House. Trusting his vaunted political instincts, President Trump had been downplaying concerns about the virus and spreading misinformation about it—efforts that were soon amplified by Republican elected officials and right-wing media figures. Worried about the stock market and his reelection prospects, Trump also feared that more testing would only lead to higher case counts and more bad publicity. Meanwhile, Dr. Deborah Birx, the White House’s coronavirus response coordinator, was reportedly sharing models with senior staff that optimistically—and erroneously, it would turn out—predicted the virus would soon fade away.
Against that background, the prospect of launching a large-scale national plan was losing favor, said one public health expert in frequent contact with the White House’s official coronavirus task force.
Most troubling of all, perhaps, was a sentiment the expert said a member of Kushner’s team expressed: that because the virus had hit blue states hardest, a national plan was unnecessary and would not make sense politically. “The political folks believed that because it was going to be relegated to Democratic states, that they could blame those governors, and that would be an effective political strategy,” said the expert..
Red
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I’ve been following along since January, and have come to my own conclusions. You may do the same, based on what you have learned to date.
Red
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I have been of the belief, long held, that a person can learn a great deal about him or herself when seeing oneself through the eyes of another. In like vein, I believe a nation, a people, can learn much about themselves when seen through the eyes of others. With that possibility in mind, here is how some Europeans see America at this time in our history:
US hits 5 million confirmed virus cases, Europe is amazed
The failure of the most powerful nation in the world to contain the scourge has been met with astonishment.
www.aol.com
“Don’t they care about their health?” a mask-clad Patrizia Antonini asked about people in the United States as she walked with friends along the banks of Lake Bracciano, north of Rome. “They need to take our precautions. ... They need a real lockdown.”
“We Italians always saw America as a model,” said Massimo Franco, a columnist with daily Corriere della Sera. “But with this virus we’ve discovered a country that is very fragile, with bad infrastructure and a public health system that is nonexistent.”
Now, if one wishes to point out “but Italy was an epicenter!”, well, not now. Now they are a model. What is the US a model of? How right wing neofascist populism can politicize the response a nation chooses in a pandemic? How the rise and triumph of conspiracism can kneecap a nation’s response to a national health crisis? With that conspiracism led, full throttle, by the nation’s chief executive?
Of course, millions of Americans, myself included, are feeling exactly as this American doctor quoted below feels. A virus does not recognize state borders, nor does federalism mean we are 50 100% independent nations, with no need of a concerted coordinated response from the federal government. It is not asking too much, indeed it is asking what should be expected, to have a president willing, and able, to rally all of his countrymen in a time of national crisis. Has Trump rallied his countrymen to take this virus seriously, from the get-go, and at all times, in every one of his tweets and press conferences? I’ll leave it to each to answer that question. Myself, I agree with the statement by this American doctor:
“Dr. David Ho, director of the Aaron Diamond AIDS Research Center at Columbia University Irving Medical Center, who is leading a team seeking treatments for COVID-19, decried such behavior, as well as the country’s handling of the virus.
“There’s no national strategy, no national leadership, and there’s no urging for the public to act in unison and carry out the measures together,” he said. “That’s what it takes, and we have completely abandoned that as a nation.”
Yes, I believe we have. I have seen no consistent effort by Donald Trump to “urge the public to act in unison and carry out the measures together”. I want a leader who speaks to ALL Americans, and shows his mettle in a time of national crisis.
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