The official "let's reelect Trump" thread

[Stoked]

A very good thing. Now if you could just convince the majority here that socialism is a recipe for disaster than we might be on to something.

A pure socialist system across everything would be a disaster. Using socialism as just another arrow in the quiver for targeted, specific problems isn’t.

For example, Healthcare. Make everyone eligible for Medicare. Those that want to keep their insurance can. Medicare has everyone else. All medical facilities and doctors must take Medicare.

I think that’s a very solid foundation to work from on healthcare. And it has a socialist base.

 

[Red]

I disagree.
They see the world the way their party wants them to see it.

If trump/the Republican party decided tomorrow that open borders are the way to go and that women should have the right to choose and that guns should have more restrictions then heathme would agree with those thoughts/policies.

Just a bunch of sheep on both sides.

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Well, I'm not going to dig for sources now, but a couple of years ago, @joebagadonuts and I initiated a thread on the differences between liberals and conservatives, and I was able to find sources describing differences in the physical brain structure. Now, that's poorly worded, I need to find sources to better describe what I am getting at, but be it psychology, or physiological differences in brain structure, when I said "psychological differences between how liberals and conservatives see the world", that is what I was thinking of. Just as a simplistic "for example", conservatives tend to be more aware and conscious of threats, liberals tend to be more open to change, etc., etc. etc. This is over and apart from the particulars separating liberals and conservatives on issues in 2019 America.

Edit: @fishonjazz, this is but one example of where I was coming from. I could find sources like this all day, and I'm sure it's relevancy/accuracy could be debated all day:

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/i...e-of-liberals-and-conservatives/#.XTM5SbApChA

 

[Stoked]

Something about how we cling to our religion, guns and God or something like that.

Lmfao. One example of something he said that was honestly dumb. Kudos.

News flash, I didn’t support Obama. But if your are comparing the behavior of the two stop. There is no comparison. Trumps a POS with bad ideas and Obama was a decent man with some bad ideas.

 

[Stoked]

The inability of people to see any possible opposition to “their side” beyond the “other side” is sad.

 

[DasJazz]

A pure socialist system across everything would be a disaster. Using socialism as just another arrow in the quiver for targeted, specific problems isn’t.

For example, Healthcare. Make everyone eligible for Medicare. Those that want to keep their insurance can. Medicare has everyone else. All medical facilities and doctors must take Medicare.

I think that’s a very solid foundation to work from on healthcare. And it has a socialist base.

Socialist based healthcare scares me. Look no further than some European countries that implement it now. They decide if you're worthy enough to live or die and give the patient and families no say in the matter.

That is not a good road to travel down.

 

[Stoked]

Socialist based healthcare scares me. Look no further than some European countries that implement it now. They decide if you're worthy enough to live or die and give the patient and families no say in the matter.

That is not a good road to travel down.

It’s better than millions uninsured. Also those already insured can keep their insurance under what I proposed. So it’s not truly “universal” in the sense of single payer. Unless everyone chooses it to be.

Canada says hi.

 

[DasJazz]

Also, this is slightly off topic but over the past few days of discussion here I have to say that I am really impressed with @Stoked in that he sticks to his convictions regardless of political party

It’s better than millions uninsured. Also those already insured can keep their insurance under what I proposed. So it’s not truly “universal” in the sense of single payer. Unless everyone chooses it to be.

Canada says hi.

I don't think I would have any issues with that depending on the fine print. My main concern being what I previously wrote. Also, Canada taxes the crap out of their people to pay for that, Germany does as well under a similar system.

 

[DasJazz]

The inability of people to see any possible opposition to “their side” beyond the “other side” is sad.

Civil discussion has been lost for a while now. I agree it is sad.

 

[Stoked]

Also, this is slightly off topic but over the past few days of discussion here I have to say that I am really impressed with @Stoked in that he sticks to his convictions regardless of political party


I don't think I would have any issues with that depending on the fine print. My main concern being what I previously wrote. Also, Canada taxes the crap out of their people to pay for that, Germany does as well under a similar system.

Universal Heath care can absolutely get away from you in a bad way. See some European nations, like you mentioned.

But I see massive room for improvement in this subject here at home.

 

[Heathme]

This guy stands by his principles. He will refuse socialized social security. Does not travel on socialist roads. Refuses socialist firefighters.

But he loves his simplistic platitudes.

Love those old socialist tropes.

 

[Heathme]

Complete and utter hypocrisy from the New York Times.

Send Them Back!’ When The New York Times Cracked the Whip Against Uppity Refugees

https://townhall.com/columnists/hum...ked-the-whip-against-uppity-refugees-n2550326

 

[Heathme]

A non-partisan attempt at immigration reform. Good for them.

Sinema Came To Her Senses And Realized People Are Taking Advantage Of Our Asylum Process

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethb...-pilot-program-to-vet-asylum-seekers-n2550356