The Official "Let's Vote Trump Out" Thread!

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  1. JazzyFresh

    JazzyFresh Well-Known Member

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    Nah, if you want to discuss the topic I'm all ears. If you want to add nothing, then I can't stop you.
     
  2. Gameface

    Gameface I actually REALLY like Gobert! Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    You have added nothing. I'm waiting for your actual answer. Can you give an actual answer?
     
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  3. JazzyFresh

    JazzyFresh Well-Known Member

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    Not it wasn't. I gave some solutions I don't have all the answers and neither do you. I know the current solution is not working though. That's been my point since the beginning.
     
  4. JazzyFresh

    JazzyFresh Well-Known Member

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    Great conversation lol. If you want to actually debate then cool man. If not I'm not doing your six year old ****.
     
  5. Gameface

    Gameface I actually REALLY like Gobert! Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    Okay, besides doing "more" I have an actual answer.

    1 -- we need shelters to help prevent people from dying.

    2 -- In these shelters we need to connect homeless people with mental health resources. In some cases these folks might be a prescription away from becoming functional.

    3 -- We need to connect with homeless people in the shelters and in the streets to try to provide drug addiction counseling. But I doubt many will kick drug addiction while on the street, so it would be useful to be able to provide dedicated in-patient drug treatment facilities specifically for homeless people.

    4 -- We need employment opportunities focused on hiring homeless people and providing them temporary housing, mental health care and basic resources while employed. Ideally these would be jobs that are almost completely filled by homeless people and are intended as a sort of transition point where eventually they find their own housing (with help) and other employment.

    That's for starters
     
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  6. Gameface

    Gameface I actually REALLY like Gobert! Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    Saying the current solution was not working and that you would do "more" is the entirety of what you said.
     
  7. JazzyFresh

    JazzyFresh Well-Known Member

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    What did Obama do?

    Did he stick up for Iranian protestors?
    Did he pass criminal justice reform?
    Did he stick up for Hong Kong?
    Is he adamant about the 2nd amendment?
    Did he get minorities working?
    Did he rid the world of a failed unconstitutional health care plan that literally forced people to pay? The same plan Obqma had his secretary sing up for the last second while he was on vacation?
    Did he get people working in natural resources again?
    Bring back blue collar jobs(Obama said they didnt exist"
    Did he make a trade deal that's supposed to help middle America farmers?
    Did he protect American citizens before illegals?
    Did he sign am EO combating human trafficking?
    Revord women employment?


    I could go on Red. All the above proves that he does care. It he a raging narcissistic idiot? Yeah, but to say he has done nothing is a flat out lie. Flat out.

    And i maintain that sitting while whole tputomg serious accomplishments is cowardly. You all act like I think Republicans are saints. They're terrible too.
     
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  8. JazzyFresh

    JazzyFresh Well-Known Member

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    Not so hard, let's get it done! But... Why is it not happening? Is it because our elected officials, Trump included, are too busy wasting millions upon million on gold pens, silver platters and investigations that go no where? I say yes, well partially.

    Impeachment is over, now should be the time these people start focusing on us and important matters. But they won't, and we'll continue to support them.
     
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  9. One Brow

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    I think he's at work right now. He'll drink in the morning, if at all.
     
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  10. One Brow

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    1) Some of them. Every person is in a unique situation, and very few choose homelessness. The lack of affordable housing is a choice by city planners and developers. New York City has abandoned buildings, subway stations, and other under-used infrastructure. Being on a coast, it's much warmer than cities like Chicago.
     
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    I'll keep that in mind.
     
  12. JazzyFresh

    JazzyFresh Well-Known Member

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    Oh and i forgot his bill restoring funding to black colleges.

    So yeah, I call BS and ignorance on your part.
     
  13. The Thriller

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    When has he added anything to a discussion? I remember a few months ago @fishonjazz basically said the same thing to him. I think we were arguing about Russia or Trump’s asking Ukraine for election help.
     
  14. The Thriller

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    People often think that unaffordable housing only exists in big “liberal” cities. It’s actually happening in red states too. Utah is one of them. Just curious, have any of you bought a home in the past 5 years here along the Wasatch Front?

    these two articles are enlightening. This one is about rent:

    https://www.ksl.com/article/46541867/unaffordable-utah-housing-crisis-hits-renters-hardest

    And this one about home prices is insane:
    https://www.ksl.com/article/4668741...-lake-county-are-higher-than-theyve-ever-been
    Have your salaries increased at that same rate???
     
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  15. fishonjazz

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    I feel so bad for people looking to buy their first home right now.

    I bought my first home about 10 years ago for about 190,000. I could sell my home for about 330,000 right now. I live in K-Town. That's an insane price to live here.

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  16. Jazzta

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    Welp.
     
  17. Stars Fan

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    One of the saddest things I experienced several times while working with the homeless is how often they would "get clean" in jail...and then OD on their release. Their bodies were just not used the same amount of drugs they were taking before jail, or they took more than did before hoping for a big post-incarceration-high.
     
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  18. JazzyFresh

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    Hey, remember when I was telling you about enabling... Even LA's DEA agrees with me. When you open your doors to "hey come here and do drugs, we'll even provide safe haven and needles" of course addicts are going to flock. This guy has no agenda...

    LOS ANGELES - The meth addiction epidemic gripping the homeless community on the streets of Los Angeles is being fueled by Mexico’s Jaliso New Generation Cartel (CJNG) and is being enabled by California’s Prop 47, the DEA said in an explosive interview with FOX 11.

    "There’s no reason to be afraid of shooting up in public. There’s no motivation to go to treatment. They used to be given a choice, do you want to go to jail, do you want a felony conviction, or do you want treatment?" Bodner added, "Now, they get a ticket, tear it up, throw it away, and they’re using drugs the same day. So, it has not worked."

    https://www.foxla.com/news/meth-may...-cjng-drug-cartel-enabled-by-prop-47-dea-says
     
  19. Zombie

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    Wait, the DEA is against decriminalization of drugs?? Somebody stop the presses!
     
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  20. Gameface

    Gameface I actually REALLY like Gobert! Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    I'd file that under "budget preservation"
     

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