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It happens to be the brain dead American president, Donald Trump, who still needs to catch up to the fact Putin is laughing at Trump’s efforts, and thinks, actually knows, that Trump is a idiot. Putin never had any intention of paying attention to such a weak man as Trump. MAGA can’t see through Trump. MAGA’s idea of a strong man is a weak man. But Putin is far sharper than Trump or MAGA. It ain’t the Democrats that Putin is making fools of. It’s the freakin idiot in the Oval Office, who thinks Vlad admires him and needs him. And Trump’s followers, who will never be smart enough to see Putin regards Trump as a chump, followers who actually believe Putin fears Trump!

It’s nobody’s fault but the followers of MAGA if they want to believe Putin respects Donald Trump. Nobody but MAGA’s fault if its denizens actually believe Trump holds sway over Putin. Didn’t Trump say he would end this war in one day? And that it would never have happened if he had been president? Who in the world is so in love with Trump that they could possibly believe that?

Nobody wants war the way you describe our present moment. Nobody WANTS war. Do some of us support freedom loving Ukrainians? Yes, some of us do. Some of us do not like an American president aligning himself with a new axis of evil. Things are so much more complex than your simplistic “Democrats want death and destruction” mantra. That’s on you. That’s not the real world. That’s your world.


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I think we all know who the brain dead weak president is that Putin doesn’t respect. The stuttering clown that was in office when Putin invaded Ukraine.
It’s pathetic that you tds retards would rather get the “win” over Trump than for him to get a peace deal and end this war.
“Axis of evil” lol. Do you know who George Bush is? You know bloodthirsty warmongers have used this exact phrase before right? Is there a lie about war that you don’t believe?
Democrats can’t seem to remember what they had for breakfast. They fall for the same stupid lies over and over again. The only thing brain dead democrats can seem to remember is that they have tds.
 

KYIV, Ukraine — A Ukrainian drone attack has destroyed more than 40 Russian planes deep in Russia's territory, a Ukrainian security official told The Associated Press on Sunday, while Russia pounded Ukraine with missiles and drones a day before the two sides meet for a new round of direct talks in Istanbul.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to disclose operational details, said the attack took over 1 1/2-year to execute and was personally supervised by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

The operation saw drones transported in containers carried by trucks deep into Russian territory, he said. The drones hit airfields including the Belaya air base in Russia's Irkutsk region, more than 4,000 kilometers (2,500 miles) from Ukraine. It is the first time that a Ukrainian drone has been seen in the region, local Gov. Igor Kobzeva said, stressing that it did not present a threat to civilians.
 
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It’s pathetic that you tds retards would rather get the “win” over Trump than for him to get a peace deal and end this war.
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I wonder who ever said that? Did I say that? No, I did not say that. Is Putin paying any attention to Trump’s “peace plan” No. is Putin using Trump? Sure seems so. In pointing that rather obvious fact out, am I therefore hoping this particular war will go on forever? No, I’m not.

I was raised with a very good idea of my country’s history, the principles upon which my country was established, and the understanding of civics that results in good citizens. In my case, thanks mostly to Vietnam, I ignored my civic responsibility to vote in our elections. Cynicism took hold for awhile. For many years. Decades.

But, when Trump showed up, on our national scene, it proved impossible to just ignore. Idealism somehow returned. I had seen this movie before. I understood history. I practiced what I preached my whole life: “never, ever, sleepwalk through that portion of History that is your’s to live, that is your lifetime”.

And, rather inexplicably, you MAGA folks interpret that as TDS?

You interpret people who understand history, understand how fascistic movements can occur in societies undergoing extreme social, cultural change, and who can see that very type of leader, a cynical power hungry demagogue with an instinctive understanding of how to create a rabid following, in the person of Donald Trump, you interpret such a response as an inexplicable aversion to Trump that crosses over into being deranged? And when the urgency was off the charts, it’s only because when one does understand the past, when one does understand how certain leaders arise in certain societal conditions, and subsequently wreck chaos, manipulate and take advantage of angry and alienated citizens, a warning is most certainly called for. I recognized Trump because I understood history. Although disliking his style really required no such understanding. His coarseness, his meanness, his colossal ego, his lack of care for his fellow man, he made no effort to hide that, none of that requires much more than a heart to recognize that is the worst kind of leader imaginable.

You don’t understand opposition to Donald Trump. It’s likely you’re not well versed in Western history. Yet, it’s understanding that very history that made recognizing Trump far easier than would be likely otherwise. The past INFORMS the present. But not if you ignore the past, or have no understanding of it whatsoever.

I give credit to many in MAGA who are sincere in their beliefs that “Woke” is destroying their country. Who genuinely believe that Trump is a savior. They could not be more mistaken, but they act out of patriotism.


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If you understand history, and leadership types that arise, in certain societal conditions, then of course you stand up and take notice when a right wing populist appeals to anger and fear. It’s not like there have never been Americans both willing and eager to follow fascists:

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If I understand you at all, you wish to replace a “uniparty” with one man rule. That is no solution, to anything at all. Trump would agree with you, though, he wants absolute power, and nothing less. Somehow, you are fine with that. But, just in terms of the Ukraine war, it isn’t about hoping Trump fails to end a war. If you can’t recognize Putin is not paying any attention to Trump, what can anyone say?
 
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KYIV, Ukraine — A Ukrainian drone attack has destroyed more than 40 Russian planes deep in Russia's territory, a Ukrainian security official told The Associated Press on Sunday, while Russia pounded Ukraine with missiles and drones a day before the two sides meet for a new round of direct talks in Istanbul.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to disclose operational details, said the attack took over 1 1/2-year to execute and was personally supervised by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

The operation saw drones transported in containers carried by trucks deep into Russian territory, he said. The drones hit airfields including the Belaya air base in Russia's Irkutsk region, more than 4,000 kilometers (2,500 miles) from Ukraine. It is the first time that a Ukrainian drone has been seen in the region, local Gov. Igor Kobzeva said, stressing that it did not present a threat to civilians.
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That’s a big blow:


KYIV, Ukraine—Ukraine’s unprecedented drone strikes on Russian air force bases weaken Moscow’s ability to wage war on its smaller neighbor and undermine its capacity to threaten more distant rivals such as the U.S. and China—a shift with potentially far-reaching geostrategic implications.

The coordinated attacks Sunday by Ukrainian drones on Russian airfields housing strategic Tupolev bombers damaged or destroyed a sizable portion of the warplane fleet Moscow uses to launch guided-missile attacks on Ukraine. They are also the planes Russia would rely on to strike adversaries in the event of a nuclear war.

Russia no longer produces the decades-old Tupolev planes, meaning it has lost a cornerstone of its ability to project military power beyond its borders. Newer Russian planes are more modern and agile but lack vital characteristics of the destroyed bombers, most significantly their range and the quantity of munitions they can carry. The attack also apparently destroyed a rare Antonov plane Russia uses for airborne command-and-control, another capability vital to modern warfare.

www.nbcnews.com

Ukraine's massive drone attack deep inside Russia lays bare Putin's vulnerability

Though the knock-on effects are unclear, some military commentators have called the strike Russia's "Pearl Harbor." Hopes for direct peace talks, which resumed Monday, remain low.
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Red said:
That’s a big blow:


KYIV, Ukraine—Ukraine’s unprecedented drone strikes on Russian air force bases weaken Moscow’s ability to wage war on its smaller neighbor and undermine its capacity to threaten more distant rivals such as the U.S. and China—a shift with potentially far-reaching geostrategic implications.

The coordinated attacks Sunday by Ukrainian drones on Russian airfields housing strategic Tupolev bombers damaged or destroyed a sizable portion of the warplane fleet Moscow uses to launch guided-missile attacks on Ukraine. They are also the planes Russia would rely on to strike adversaries in the event of a nuclear war.

Russia no longer produces the decades-old Tupolev planes, meaning it has lost a cornerstone of its ability to project military power beyond its borders. Newer Russian planes are more modern and agile but lack vital characteristics of the destroyed bombers, most significantly their range and the quantity of munitions they can carry. The attack also apparently destroyed a rare Antonov plane Russia uses for airborne command-and-control, another capability vital to modern warfare.

www.nbcnews.com

Ukraine's massive drone attack deep inside Russia lays bare Putin's vulnerability

Though the knock-on effects are unclear, some military commentators have called the strike Russia's "Pearl Harbor." Hopes for direct peace talks, which resumed Monday, remain low.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
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This does raise concerns about at what point Putin will engage with nuclear weapons. If Ukraine continues with such devastating strikes, when does Putin just decide enough is enough and take out Kyiv with nukes?
 
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LogGrad98 said:
This does raise concerns about at what point Putin will engage with nuclear weapons. If Ukraine continues with such devastating strikes, when does Putin just decide enough is enough and take out Kyiv with nukes?
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I cant confidently say I doubt he nukes Kyiv but Putin is so unpredictable. This is naturally a huge blow to Russia and I wonder where the intelligence came from for this operation? Its also worth considering that a lot of 'experts' are stating that the Russian are rapidly heading toward economic ruin, so Putin is running out of time.

The problem remains Trump being a dishonest actor and he will impose his own conditions on any peace in Ukraine.
 
Rubashov said:
I cant confidently say I doubt he nukes Kyiv but Putin is so unpredictable. This is naturally a huge blow to Russia and I wonder where the intelligence came from for this operation? Its also worth considering that a lot of 'experts' are stating that the Russian are rapidly heading toward economic ruin, so Putin is running out of time.

The problem remains Trump being a dishonest actor and he will impose his own conditions on any peace in Ukraine.
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This is kind of my point. Putin is a megalomaniac and fascist dictator, and highly volatile. If you back a dangerous animal into a corner it will pull out all the stops to fight back. I could see him seeing that as one desperate final attempt to hold his empire together. Would not surprise me in the slightest.

And I also hope Ukraine does not stop there. Send more drones, start hitting infrastructure, power generation, transportation lines, anything they can to disrupt the Russian military machine. They are on their back foot now, time to keep striking until they fall.
 
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LogGrad98 said:
This is kind of my point. Putin is a megalomaniac and fascist dictator, and highly volatile. If you back a dangerous animal into a corner it will pull out all the stops to fight back. I could see him seeing that as one desperate final attempt to hold his empire together. Would not surprise me in the slightest.

And I also hope Ukraine does not stop there. Send more drones, start hitting infrastructure, power generation, transportation lines, anything they can to disrupt the Russian military machine. They are on their back foot now, time to keep striking until they fall.
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If they can penetrate Russia like that a bombing campaign like the IRA waged in London in the 80s and 90s would be a good idea. Those bombings of commercial areas, caused hundreds of millions of pounds of damage and brought the brits to the negotiating table.
 

The strike is one of the heaviest blows that Ukraine has landed on Russia in a war now well into its fourth year. Russia has relatively small numbers of strategic bombers—probably fewer than 90 operational Tu-22, Tu-95 and newer Tu-160s in total. The planes can carry nuclear weapons, but have been used to fire conventional cruise missilesagainst Ukrainian targets, as recently as last week. That has made them high-priority targets for Ukrainian military planners. Many of the aircraft are old and no longer produced—the last Tu-22m3s and Tu-95s were made more than 30 years ago—and their replacements, the Tu-160, are being manufactured at a glacial pace.

The fact that Ukraine was able to damage or destroy such a large number of Russia’s most advanced aircraft deep inside the country reflects the development of its deep-strike programme, as well as the remarkable extent to which Ukraine’s undercover operatives are now able to work inside Russia. Since the start of the Kremlin’s all-out invasion, Ukraine’s operations have expanded in range, ambition and sophistication. Western countries have provided some assistance to Ukraine’s deep-strike programme—on May 28th Germany promised to finance Ukrainian long-range drones—but much of the technology and mission planning is indigenous.

Today’s operation is likely to be ranked among the most important raiding actions in modern warfare. According to sources, the mission was 18 months in the making. Russia had been expecting attacks by larger fixed-wing drones at night and closer to the border with Ukraine. The Ukrainians reversed all three variables, launching small drones during the day, and doing so far from the front lines. Ukraine had launched drones from within Russia previously; the difference was the scale and combined nature of the operations.

Commentators close to the Ukrainian security services suggest that as many as 150 drones and 300 bombs had been smuggled into Russia for the operations. The quadcopters were apparently built into wooden cabins, loaded onto lorries and then released after the roofs of the cabins were remotely retracted. The drones used Russian mobile-telephone networks to relay their footage back to Ukraine, much of which was released by the gleeful Ukrainians. They also used elements of automated targeting, the accounts claim.


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Good summary. The truck drivers did not know they were carrying drones, remotely controlled, each with its own remote pilot, set to launch. When the remote controlled roof opened, some threw rocks at the drones as they flew out.

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How Ukraine carried out daring 'Spider Web' attack on Russian bombers

On 1 June, more than 100 Ukrainian drones struck strategic targets deep into Russia in an elaborate and audacious operation.
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