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Mongoose said:
When we know that just about every ex president has taken documents and apparently some vice presidents and First Ladies took boxes and boxes and hard drives full of documents and they prosecute just trump?
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Trump did not return them when asked. The others did.

Mongoose said:
When I say “see through the trump prosecution” I’m talking about the fact that it’s an obvious attempt to silence a political opponent because we have ex presidents that have done far worse with no consequences.
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If Trump goes to jail, it would not be the first time someone has run for President from jail. Prosecuting Trump doesn't silence him. You have a faulty assumption you are relying on.
 
One Brow said:
Trump did not return them when asked. The others did.
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Really, Hilary have hers back? When else have they even asked for docs from ex presidents? It doesn’t make any sense.
One Brow said:
If Trump goes to jail, it would not be the first time someone has run for President from jail. Prosecuting Trump doesn't silence him. You have a faulty assumption you are relying on.
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It’s not an assumption it’s an obvious logical conclusion.
 
Gameface said:
It doesn't seem suspect because once the government found out about the docs they asked for them back. Trump played musical chairs with the documents and hid them not just from the government but from his own lawyers to avoid giving them back. Then he got himself on tape saying basically "Look at this classified document that I'm not keeping secure in any way. When I was President I could have declassified this document just because I wanted to (even though this document shouldn't be declassified) but I'm not President anymore so I can't do that. Yet here it is, I'm waiving it in your face." His housekeeping staff had full access to our classified documents, along with any random guest at Mar-A-Logo. I mean I watched enough 80s spy movies to know that this would be a treasure trove for a secret agent just sitting there asking to be photographed and sent back to the motherland.

In short, Trump has been way way stupider than any of those other Presidents. There is evidence for days. Not just speculation or assumptions. Evidence, the kind you can put in front of a jury in a court room. That's on Trump for being as dumb as he is.
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Do you really think a president is going to come out and say “we tortured some folks” if there weren’t a mountain of evidence that it happened? Bush started a torture program and we have the evidence. We still have the damn program for heavens sake. Your argument that trump is just dumb is incredibly silly and disingenuous.
I’d ask if you think having documents at your house is more dangerous than starting a war based on lies about WMD’s that killed millions of people and starting a torture program, but I know that you’ll do the gymnastics to justify the docs as worse for the simple fact that it’s trump.
 
Mongoose said:
Do you really think a president is going to come out and say “we tortured some folks” if there weren’t a mountain of evidence that it happened? Bush started a torture program and we have the evidence. We still have the damn program for heavens sake. Your argument that trump is just dumb is incredibly silly and disingenuous.
I’d ask if you think having documents at your house is more dangerous than starting a war based on lies about WMD’s that killed millions of people and starting a torture program, but I know that you’ll do the gymnastics to justify the docs as worse for the simple fact that it’s trump.
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I am certainly no Bush booster, but, unfortunately, what he did was probably not illegal. I think it should be, personally, but it's not. Also, he didn't start a war after he left office, so there's a certain amount of protection there.

Other members of the Mafia did worse things that Al Capone's tax evasion, but that's what he ended up going to prison for.
 
Mongoose said:
Really, Hilary have hers back?
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Yes.

Mongoose said:
When else have they even asked for docs from ex presidents?
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I would think pretty much all of them.

Mongoose said:
It doesn’t make any sense.
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It does, you just don't like the reality for some reason.

Mongoose said:
It’s not an assumption it’s an obvious logical conclusion.
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Detail out the argument, particularly the premises, and I'll find the faulty assumption.
 
Mongoose said:
Do you really think a president is going to come out and say “we tortured some folks” if there weren’t a mountain of evidence that it happened? Bush started a torture program and we have the evidence. We still have the damn program for heavens sake. Your argument that trump is just dumb is incredibly silly and disingenuous.
I’d ask if you think having documents at your house is more dangerous than starting a war based on lies about WMD’s that killed millions of people and starting a torture program, but I know that you’ll do the gymnastics to justify the docs as worse for the simple fact that it’s trump.
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No, my entire point is that I DON'T think any other president would be stupid enough to say that. That's basically my whole post, bro.
 
Mongoose said:
Do you really think a president is going to come out and say “we tortured some folks” if there weren’t a mountain of evidence that it happened? Bush started a torture program and we have the evidence. We still have the damn program for heavens sake. Your argument that trump is just dumb is incredibly silly and disingenuous.
I’d ask if you think having documents at your house is more dangerous than starting a war based on lies about WMD’s that killed millions of people and starting a torture program, but I know that you’ll do the gymnastics to justify the docs as worse for the simple fact that it’s trump.
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Oh and you can only prosecute what you can prove. I mean it is what it is on that one. Kill 1 million people but there's no proof, you don't do time. Steal a gummy bear but it's on tape, depending on your income bracket you might be doing some jail time.
 
Gameface said:
Oh and you can only prosecute what you can prove. I mean it is what it is on that one. Kill 1 million people but there's no proof, you don't do time. Steal a gummy bear but it's on tape, depending on your income bracket you might be doing some jail time.
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What? You don’t think you can prove that millions of people died as a result of the war on terror? I’m pretty sure there’s burials, death certificates, citizenship records, military records, and so on. You make no sense.
 
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