The official: We are sick of this **** thread.

[homeytennis]

Let's bring Jack Cooley and Bryce Cotton in. Couldn't be worse.

 

[Isaiah 1:13]

Let's bring Jack Cooley and Bryce Cotton in. Couldn't be worse.

Are they available? Both would address areas of need in the paint and at the point.

 

[Deleted member 365]

I can only imagine how good our starting lineup would look with Rubio still running the show. He's 6'4" so he helps negate Donovan's shortness, and the chemistry that he would have had with Bogdanovic - it would have been gangbusters.

IMO, what we most need is a real floor general who can control the offense. This doesn't have to be an expense or even good player, just someone who can steady the second unit and make the offense execute. I am thinking someone like Jamaal Tinsley from a few years ago (not looking to get theirs).

Would also like to see an upgrade at backup center (another cheap fix).

We had both of those last year, Rubio and Favors.

 

[Deleted member 365]

If we had kept most of last year’s team and added Bogie, where would we be right now?

 

[416Klawzz]

If we had kept most of last year’s team and added Bogie, where would we be right now?

In a better position

 

[Isaiah 1:13]

Looking at this forum you would believe the Jazz are just a scrub cluster (although that kinda fits for the end of the bench currently being utilized). The Jazz aren't good right now, but they still can be. Quin has to be better. The ball movement from the last couple years isn't there, and that is partially because of the play calling and partially because of the new pieces being integrated. This results in low quality shots, hurried shots, and overall discombobulated looking offense where everybody ends up looking confused or irritated. The reason this becomes a problem is it leads to passion-less defense and overall play; but the defense is just not good. The Jazz do miss Favors. Still, the current problems are fixable, and I believe they will be, but Quin has to bring back the ball movement to keep everyone engaged. Donovan chucking after good ball movement is way better than Donovan chucking after 15 seconds of dominating the ball. Rudy needs to feel the ball once in a while to maintain his passion, and since he's the only great defender the Jazz have that they currently play more than 3 minutes (please play Exum), it's critical. Mudiay isn't a bad player, but he's a very poor fit and should be traded regardless of what the Jazz get back. Green is a horrible defender, both in execution and desire, with no ability to impose a physical presence or rebound. This wouldn't be as problematic if the Jazz still had Favors. Bojan needs to look in the mirror and ask himself why he can't defend or rebound. I envisioned this team being able to beat anyone in a 7 game series through awesome ball movement/ability to shoot the three/Donovans greatness. I've tempered my expectations greatly since none of the three currently exist.

Good points all. Most of all, Favors departure left a huge hole all the floor spacing gotta have a stretch four types didn't anticipate. The height of absurdity is the fact that AD goes to the Lakers to pair with Lebron and become the new template for success, and we turn around and trade Derrick Favors, perhaps the best defender of AD in the league to the same team that traded AD.doh!



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[homeytennis]

Are they available? Both would address areas of need in the paint and at the point.

Cooley is playing in Japan averaging 16 points 11 boards and Cotton is playing in Australia averaging 21 ppg on 43% shooting. I can make the argument that these two, TBooker, Jeremy Evans and Jonas Jerebko are better than our bench now.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I can only imagine how good our starting lineup would look with Rubio still running the show. He's 6'4" so he helps negate Donovan's shortness, and the chemistry that he would have had with Bogdanovic - it would have been gangbusters.

That’s the problem with riding with Favs Rudy Ricky combo so long... couldn’t see how effective we could be with Ricky. I will say he still drove me crazy and I’m not sure he’s a great solution, but I appreciate the things he did do much more.

 

[Joncolton]

The good news (I guess) for the Jazz is - if we REALLY want Derrick Favors or Jae Crowder back, they are both free agents this summer.

 

[416Klawzz]

The good news (I guess) for the Jazz is - if we REALLY want Derrick Favors or Jae Crowder back, they are both free agents this summer.

Would they come back tho ? I think so

 

[NAOS]

Jazz so deeeeeep, doe

 

[jom2003]

That’s the problem with riding with Favs Rudy Ricky combo so long... couldn’t see how effective we could be with Ricky. I will say he still drove me crazy and I’m not sure he’s a great solution, but I appreciate the things he did do much more.

At least with Rubio Favs Crowder will allow us to play big lineups that have physical/size advantages over the majority of our opponents. The only issue is that we lack the skill/shooting to be as good as Milwaukee in that department. So a bonafide playoff contender just short of championship contention.

Now without Rubio/Crowder/Rubio that completely takes away our ability to play big, but we still lack the skills/shooting to go full small. Hence a significant regression from where we were before.