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You're right, there are lots of teams that pull that **** at the first sign of issues. And all those teams are garbage and will remain garbage. You fire a coach thats been right at 50 wins for 4 years in a row because he had a bad quarter of a season?

What the F do you want him to do with Rudy? He's been hot garbage. What about Bogey? Awful the last 6 weeks. Don? Awful the last 2 months. You put all of their issues on Quin? Seriously, what do you want and or expect? Never have a bad stretch? No slumps ever? Make the finals every year?

This is Utah. Better come to terms with the realities of life as a Jazz fan.
Why do you speak in absolutes? Oh yeah, the whole internet thing. No one ever said quin was the only one to blame. There are plenty of threads spreading the blame around. I started this one because it's at times like these that the coach needs to step in and rally the team and I think it is valid to question quins ability to do that at this point. Pretty much everyone has been hot garbage. But I think we downplay quins influence because cocaine and hookers and he must be a genius, when in reality he shares a decent chunk of the blame at this point.
 
His dad did die during the off season.

Overrated by Jazz fans? Uhmm possibly but he's not overrated because he is widely regarded as one of the top 5-10 coaches around the league and in some cases I've seen in the top 5.

Perfect coach, nope. I have issues with not sitting one of the starters earlier than normal when they're obviously not playing well (mentally not locked in, playing lazy etc...), is what I yell at my TV most often. The next biggest gripe is end quarter and clock situations going too much iso ball but part of that blame can also be the other teams' defense and the players just not executing hard enough when the other team is dialed in more.

Anyway, IMO Quin is way down the list of issues but he is part of the team and does share some of the load with the team's inconsistency.

I'll end on this.... can anyone on this GD team consistently make a layup, maybe they need to get an coach dedicated to just teaching that, holy hell.
 
Do you follow professional sports by chance?

Quin has bad stretches every year - particularly the beginning of the season.

He's an above average coach imo. But I'm not sure he's capable of having his system produce a championship.

He has mediocre stretches against the best teams in the NBA, which since the Jazz aren't one of the most talented teams in the NBA is completely reasonable. These last 20 games or whatever are most certainly cause for concern. I think the biggest issue is the Jazz are short and unathletic. Which you can't pin on Quin. Really hard, if not impossible, to overcome that. So until Quin starts crapping the bed with a superior roster I think firing him is unreasonable.
 
Remember when Toronto fired their COY coach two years ago?

Pepperidge Farms remembers.



Was that a garbage decision?

Oh, and using outliers to make an argument is dumb. Toronto getting Kawhi was far more relevant to their championship than switching coaches.
 
To go from very good to great you need your core dudes to take a step forward. They've got to work to add individual skills. You need individual skills to evolve from very good to great to be great team.
That's not happening with our All Stars.
Gobert case is absolutely obvious: his hands are still not good eough, he doesn't protect the basketball with his hands properly after he grabs the rock, he still tends to take the ball down, he didn't add a little jumper or any kind of hook shot, he did not develop any strong one hand finish over the rim, his legs are still easy to hack, his gravity only works for a second or two when rolling to the rim because the moment he turn away from the rim line no one follows him anywhere (Ingles seems to be the only dude in Jazz organization to realize how to use this particular gravity).
Mitchell appears to be a stalled player too, but he plays most of his time with Gobert and has been enduring this "lets make a high usage PG out of this dude" experiment. I would like to watch him a little bit more Gobertless and with a lower usage to see what happens.
 
Quin is above average coach in my opinion. I doubt we could get someone great in his place. But let just say he is average, lost on the team. My question than is: Who do you have in mind to replace him? What makes you believe that person would be better than Quin? Is it realistic to get him?
 
Not saying he is but maybe Atkinson?

That said, Atkinson’s teams have always sucked on d.
Atkinson would be outstanding! Nobody in this league has done more with less. And because he and Marks came in from San Antonio just a few months apart, I think it's fair to say that Atkinson probably had more of a hand in personnel decisions than most coaches in this league as well. To me at least, the Jazz are a dysfunctional family with lots of co-dependencies. Nobody in this league outside of possibly Pop, scratch that, nobody in this league makes his players more accountable than Atkinson - which is probably the reason he's been replaced to placate Irving most likely.

Best game I've seen all year was exactly one week ago in Boston garden, Boston's got everybody healthy and the Nets go into the fourth quarter down seventeen points. Atkinson pulls his starters in the third before reinserting Caris LeVert in the fourth and stayed with that lineup of bench players and LeVert through the end of the fourth and I think through the OT as well (had to leave as the overtime was getting underway). That unit scored 51 points in the fourth to tie the game. Kevin Durant called the game a masterpiece.
https://www.espn.com/nba/recap?gameId=401161552

But the point is, when have you ever seen Snyder roll with the scrubs when they're cookin or even roll with a hot hand not named Mitchell? He can't do it, it's just not in his DNA. Atkinson would come in and clean things up, he'd be perfect and if you don't like it Rudy take a seat pal.
 
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They just signed him to an extension. He is not going anywhere, and he is not the problem. For the last two years he has taken a team without an established star to the playoffs. The team’s best and really only offensive player had been a 13th pick rookie (then sophomore). He managed to get 50 wins out of a team that started two centers, had no outside shooters, and no all stars (at the time). This year he is again on pace to win 50 games with a team that is now undersized and doesn’t have enough defense or athleticism.

The team isn’t as good as he hoped they would be this year, but they’re still better than 22 other NBA franchises at the moment.
 
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