The Ringer VIDEO - teh Jazzz r gud

[BabyPeterzz]

I think the Indiana game showed how we respond when the long ball isn't falling. We attacked, got good inside looks, and kept shooting. The ship kind of corrected itself. But he is right about our free throw rate, it is abysmal. We need to have that kind of plan as a back up while we get the 3 ball cooking again.

Agreed it needs improvement, but if the 3’s are falling why put the game in the hands of the refs. In fact, our style takes the game out of the refs hands more so. I like it.


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[infection]

Agreed it needs improvement, but if the 3’s are falling why put the game in the hands of the refs. In fact, our style takes the game out of the refs hands more so. I like it.


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Interesting point. Still obviously a lot of other ways they can change nitrile and even hide behind “hey, it’s your style of play that caused the discrepancy.” But interest thought I’ll have to think about.

 

[framer]

We could win the title and they’d still tell us we weren’t contenders.

Nah, they would go to the old Stockalone excuse that we "play dirty" or cheat somehow to get there. They do the same when Utah or BYU are good too (entire team of 24 year old men.)

 

[framer]

Interesting point, so I went and looked up some things

• Jazz FT-rate and FT/game are right in the middle of league average (17th & 14th respectively)
• Some of the Jazz's worst 3-point % games were also those with the most FT taken (so they do at least sometimes adjust, it seems)
• 3 of the Jazz's top-5 FT-taking games were among the team's 5 losses (the other two losses were the very worst FT-taking game, as well as one somewhere in the middle as far as FTs taken) -- that surprised me a bit; FTs taken does not seem to be an indicator for success for the Jazz (small sample size issues of course)

I'd speculate that some of those games were the early games where teams were straight up mugging out shooters and were having success with it. They got called for more fouls, but they were able to wreck our rotations.

The Jazz seem to have adjusted from that, especially in second halves. We just use our defense to stay close (our defense has improved VASTLY from those first few games) and run them through a gauntlet of screens until they burn out from the expended effort and we bury them in the 3rd.

It is amazing how often that same movie has played this month when teams try to body us.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'd speculate that some of those games were the early games where teams were straight up mugging out shooters and were having success with it. They got called for more fouls, but they were able to wreck our rotations.

The Jazz seem to have adjusted from that, especially in second halves. We just use our defense to stay close (our defense has improved VASTLY from those first few games) and run them through a gauntlet of screens until they burn out from the expended effort and we bury them in the 3rd.

It is amazing how often that same movie has played this month when teams try to body us.

It’s also amazing that we really haven’t all clicked at the same time yet... and we are 20-5. Bogey struggled hard early and Mike was great... DM struggled a bit too. Now Bogey has turned the corner and Mike is out. It feels like if we can somehow have the main dudes healthy it could get ****ing ugly for opposing teams. Top to bottom every guy is playing better defense than last year... including Rudy.

I don’t want the national media on our dick... we only ride with the die hards.

 

[str8line]

Watched some of the Blazers-Sixers game last night and boy are we lucky to get to watch the caliber of basketball the Jazz provide.

 

[infection]

It’s also amazing that we really haven’t all clicked at the same time yet... and we are 20-5. Bogey struggled hard early and Mike was great... DM struggled a bit too. Now Bogey has turned the corner and Mike is out. It feels like if we can somehow have the main dudes healthy it could get ****ing ugly for opposing teams. Top to bottom every guy is playing better defense than last year... including Rudy.

I don’t want the national media on our dick... we only ride with the die hards.

Going back to my defense thread... the defense has been interesting. We've really got the team D thing down. There's been nobody who looks bad. I mean maybe on a possession but it's usually because of a blown rotation, but everyone has looked good.

 

[LogGrad98]

It’s also amazing that we really haven’t all clicked at the same time yet... and we are 20-5. Bogey struggled hard early and Mike was great... DM struggled a bit too. Now Bogey has turned the corner and Mike is out. It feels like if we can somehow have the main dudes healthy it could get ****ing ugly for opposing teams. Top to bottom every guy is playing better defense than last year... including Rudy.

I don’t want the national media on our dick... we only ride with the die hards.

What I like about this is we are poised to really hit our stride for the last dozen games of the year or so and the playoffs. This team, playing as we are, firing on all 10 cylinders, will be nothing short of amazing to watch. It's gonna get real, and fun, and real fun!

I mean how many other teams have legitimately 4 guys that can go for 20 to 30 on any given night, and another 2 who are fringe 20-pt guys. And have 5 guys shooting above or near 40% from 3, seven guys above 36% from 3 realistically. And the best defensive player in the league anchoring it all. And a budding superstar showing the ability to take over games as needed. This is the most complete team we have had in a long long time and, I would argue, the most complete team in the league right now. We don't have the star-power, but we don't have as many weaknesses as many of the star-powered teams do, and the one glaring weakness we have we are showing we can solve by committee. Right now the ceiling of this Jazz team is dictated entirely by their effort. The pieces are all in place, it is just a matter of QS keeping his team engaged and playing with aggression. We do that and there won't be much standing in our way. I predict at least 2 more double-digit win streaks in our future, unless we lose too much to injury or we have a stretch where we lose focus. But if we stay focused this is the dream season.

Holy **** this is so much fun!!!

 

[infection]

I predict at least 2 more double-digit win streaks in our future, unless we lose too much to injury or we have a stretch where we lose focus. But if we stay focused this is the dream season.

Here's to now. If we could get all three of those LA games, that would be huge.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Going back to my defense thread... the defense has been interesting. We've really got the team D thing down. There's been nobody who looks bad. I mean maybe on a possession but it's usually because of a blown rotation, but everyone has looked good.

This year’s team looks like a totally different team from last year in all facets of the game. If that ain’t the winning argument for Quin getting COTY (assuming this trend holds), I’m not sure what the winning argument for anyone would be.

 

[LogGrad98]

This year’s team looks like a totally different team from last year in all facets of the game. If that ain’t the winning argument for Quin getting COTY (assuming this trend holds), I’m not sure what the winning argument for anyone would be.

The winning argument is it is good for the league for the Warriors to be relevant again, and they are, as Steph is playing at an MVP level, so I imagine Kerr will get COY this year.