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I'd say I'm only 60-70% that he did it, but honestly I don't have a decent alternative theory.

I'll be interested to see where the stuff with the innocence project goes.
 
The podcast got me interested in having a life-sentence prisoner pen pal. I have no idea how to go about that, but I bet there's a website or something.
 
The Jay interview swung me around pretty hard. I went from 70-80% than Adnan did it to closer to 40% that he did it. Jay's new timeline has the body being buried something like 6-8 hours later than he originally testified. That means that none of the cell records make sense anymore and the alibi timing is totally different.

It's totally possible that someone else Jay cared about killed her and he's covering up that killing by pointing fingers at the most plausible and convenient suspect possible.
 
YB85 said:
Based on what we heard on the podcast, I had reasonable doubt.
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That's what stuns me...are there people who don't have reasonable doubt?

I'm not sure if I already referenced it in this thread, but for the reasonable doubt issue this reminds me of a local case here (well up in Ft. Collins anyway). A teenager named Tim Masters was convicted of murder (albeit 10 or so years after the murder), despite a total lack of physical evidence. Yet according to the jury he was convicted not because of any damning piece of evidence, but because a whole bunch of little pieces all added up (there was also some police and prosecutorial shenanigans...and he later was released and I believe the conviction was overturned, thankfully due to DNA evidence). And once I heard that it scared me a bit that juries can be made up of complete and total morons. The evidence against Masters was so non-existent that I couldn't believe they could convince 9 grown men/women to convict, yet they did (at one point they used violent drawings...which was absurd yet it worked...damn those jurors were morons, just total and complete morons).

Here is the wiki link on that case if anyone is interested:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peggy_Hettrick_murder_case

On a general note, I hate to see people get convicted of any crime unless there is good physical evidence, or video evidence. Or at the very least multiple eyewitnesses.
 
After reading Part1 of the Jay interview, I feel more strongly that Adnan did it.


I'm not sure what the problem is here, and why so many want to free Adnan. The guy did it. It's obvious. There's no need to be trying to free a convicted murderer.


Jay said he helped dig the hole to bury the body, and he saw the dead body. I see no reason for him to lie about that, or make it up. Unless he did it himself and is trying to frame Adnan. That leaves only two possibilities of who did it. It's either Jay or Adnan. Jay is saying Adnan did it, and Adnan is saying he has no idea who did it. He's playing dumb, saying he can't remember what happened that day. How can you not remember what happened that day, the day your girlfriend was murdered? A day like that, anyone would remember.


Ya, there isn't a bunch of physical evidence that days Jay did it, but everything else points right or to him. There is no reason to try and help this guy. Everyone should just move on to a case that has a little more doubt involved.
 
Hack said:
After reading Part1 of the Jay interview, I feel more strongly that Adnan did it.


I'm not sure what the problem is here, and why so many want to free Adnan. The guy did it. It's obvious. There's no need to be trying to free a convicted murderer.


Jay said he helped dig the hole to bury the body, and he saw the dead body. I see no reason for him to lie about that, or make it up. Unless he did it himself and is trying to frame Adnan. That leaves only two possibilities of who did it. It's either Jay or Adnan. Jay is saying Adnan did it, and Adnan is saying he has no idea who did it. He's playing dumb, saying he can't remember what happened that day. How can you not remember what happened that day, the day your girlfriend was murdered? A day like that, anyone would remember.


Ya, there isn't a bunch of physical evidence that days Jay did it, but everything else points right or to him. There is no reason to try and help this guy. Everyone should just move on to a case that has a little more doubt involved.
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The problem is the lack of physical evidence which makes it less than obvious that Adnan did it. Surely you could be right I just don't think it is obvious and the interview with Jay just adds more holes to his story.
 
Hack said:
After reading Part1 of the Jay interview, I feel more strongly that Adnan did it.


I'm not sure what the problem is here, and why so many want to free Adnan. The guy did it. It's obvious. There's no need to be trying to free a convicted murderer.


Jay said he helped dig the hole to bury the body, and he saw the dead body. I see no reason for him to lie about that, or make it up. Unless he did it himself and is trying to frame Adnan. That leaves only two possibilities of who did it. It's either Jay or Adnan. Jay is saying Adnan did it, and Adnan is saying he has no idea who did it. He's playing dumb, saying he can't remember what happened that day. How can you not remember what happened that day, the day your girlfriend was murdered? A day like that, anyone would remember.


Ya, there isn't a bunch of physical evidence that days Jay did it, but everything else points right or to him. There is no reason to try and help this guy. Everyone should just move on to a case that has a little more doubt involved.
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No shocker here, but I'm glad you aren't a part of the Justice system.
 
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