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The USA is a police state

SaltyDawg said:
So it's not a police state until it's worse than North Korea in every imaginable way?
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Worse? Who the hell said that? It's only a police state when you're not free to oppose the government - and the government absolutely rules with an iron fist. That isn't the case here. You're not being dragged from your home, your family members raped and murdered, because you decided to speak out on some internet message board. Those are actions of police states - not half the crap we've experienced here in the U.S. and calling the U.S. a police state trivializes the millions of citizens who are living under tyrannical governments - people who aren't free to practice a certain religion or to openly show affection to a lover who happens to be of the same sex ... lest they be arrested and charged with indecency (and God knows they'd probably be imprisoned or killed for it).

So, stop with the hyperbole. This is no different than the fools who say Obama is the same as Hitler or Stalin.
 
Sean said:
Worse? Who the hell said that? It's only a police state when you're not free to oppose the government - and the government absolutely rules with an iron fist. That isn't the case here. You're not being dragged from your home, your family members raped and murdered, because you decided to speak out on some internet message board. Those are actions of police states - not half the crap we've experienced here in the U.S. and calling the U.S. a police state trivializes the millions of citizens who are living under tyrannical governments - people who aren't free to practice a certain religion or to openly show affection to a lover who happens to be of the same sex ... lest they be arrested and charged with indecency (and God knows they'd probably be imprisoned or killed for it).

So, stop with the hyperbole. This is no different than the fools who say Obama is the same as Hitler or Stalin.
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Me personally? No that hasn't happened to me yet. But there have been American citizens executed by flying robots without a warrant and without being charged with a crime. And there have been other American citizens detained indefinitely without being charged with a crime.

It is a police state.

And like the original post says, you'd have said I was crazy if I would have told you this is how things would be in 13 years back in the year 2000.

We're a lot closer to being North Korea right now, than we were to this current police state back in 2000.
 
SaltyDawg said:
Me personally? No that hasn't happened to me yet. But there have been American citizens executed by flying robots without a warrant and without being charged with a crime. And there have been other American citizens detained indefinitely without being charged with a crime.

It is a police state.

And like the original post says, you'd have said I was crazy if I would have told you this is how things would be in 13 years back in the year 2000.

We're a lot closer to being North Korea right now, than we were to this current police state back in 2000.
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don't mind him. he will only consider it a police state if it personally happens to him
 
SaltyDawg said:
Me personally? No that hasn't happened to me yet. But there have been American citizens executed by flying robots without a warrant and without being charged with a crime. And there have been other American citizens detained indefinitely without being charged with a crime.

It is a police state.

And like the original post says, you'd have said I was crazy if I would have told you this is how things would be in 13 years back in the year 2000.

We're a lot closer to being North Korea right now, than we were to this current police state back in 2000.
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I'd like to see a link to this story about American citizens being executed by flying robots on American soil. I've heard of one, who was behind the underwear bombing and connected to al-Qaeda, and he was not living in the U.S. at the time, so, no sympathy from me there. But the point stands - none of what you've said amounts to a police state.

And no, I wouldn't have thought you crazy because as I've said, we've been doing this for our entire history. It just flew under the radar because we didn't have the internet back then and it wasn't as easy to spread these stories. You do know drones existed in the 90s, right?

Like I said, if you're so sure America is a police state, venture over into North Korea or Iran or Syria and get a real idea of what a police state feels like. You'll be wishin' to whatever thing you believe in that you were on American soil again.
 
DutchJazzer said:
don't mind him. he will only consider it a police state if it personally happens to him
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Clearly the government isn't doing a good job running this police state or Salty wouldn't be able to complain about how much of a police state America currently is. Don't you guys see the irony in this whole discussion taking place?

I really don't think either of you know what a police state really is.
 
Sean said:
Clearly the government isn't doing a good job running this police state or Salty wouldn't be able to complain about how much of a police state America currently is. Don't you guys see the irony in this whole discussion taking place?

I really don't think either of you know what a police state really is.
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Right, because nobody in Iran or Syria ever complained on the internet about their government...
 
Ty the Turd said:
Or rather that what you stated doesn't prove that we are.
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And maybe it wasn't intended to.

I never claimed we're Syria or Iran. I just disputed his claim that we had to be Syria or Iran to be considered a police state, and his claim that I wouldn't be posting this stuff if it was a police state.
 
Not going to read this thread. Just wanted y'all to know you're not welcome in Canada.
 
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