The USA is a police state

[SaltyDawg]

Yes but accidental deaths by things like falling off of ladders, or slipping in the bathtub, or car accidents etc etc are all things that are kind of a neccessary part of life.... Guns only essential purpose is for killing. If guns did not exist and people were all kind to one another (granted a completely retarded hypothetical) then everyone would be just fine without them existing and we wouldn't really miss them much.
Maybe you know of something else that causes accidental deaths that are not neccessary parts of life and if you can think of any then i would like it if they were all gone as well.... i cant think of anything that accidentally kills people often that is not a neccessary part of life besides guns though.

Per this link:
https://listosaur.com/miscellaneous/top-5-causes-of-accidental-death-in-the-united-states.html

The top 5 causes of accidental deaths for people between the ages of 1 and 42 in the United States are:

5: Choking (Approximately 2,500 deaths per year)

4: Fires (2,700 annual deaths)

3: Falls (25,000 annual deaths)

2: Poisoning (39,000 annual deaths)

1: Motor Vehicle Incidents (42,000 annual deaths)

Just missing the cut was Drowning (2,000 annual deaths).

Way down the list, Accidental Shootings (600 annual deaths).

Obviously, we should ban cars and make everyone use public transportation. And swimming pools should be banned as well.

 

[fishonjazz]

Per this link:
https://listosaur.com/miscellaneous/top-5-causes-of-accidental-death-in-the-united-states.html

The top 5 causes of accidental deaths for people between the ages of 1 and 42 in the United States are:

5: Choking (Approximately 2,500 deaths per year)

4: Fires (2,700 annual deaths)

3: Falls (25,000 annual deaths)

2: Poisoning (39,000 annual deaths)

1: Motor Vehicle Incidents (42,000 annual deaths)

Just missing the cut was Drowning (2,000 annual deaths).

Way down the list, Accidental Shootings (600 annual deaths).

Obviously, we should ban cars and make everyone use public transportation. And swimming pools should be banned as well.

If we could ban cars and public transportation went everyones house and also public transportation took us wherever we want then that would be great!... but unfortunately cars are neccessary for day to day life (unlike guns).
I guess we could ban water, but then of course water is kind of neccessary for living (unlike guns)
We could ban fire, except fire is used for many many things that are neccessary, like keeping my house heated.
Falls.... impossible to ban that one.
choking... food is pretty neccessary for life.
Again, my point is that all those things listed have a primary use (fire for warmth or cooking ect., water for drinking, cars for getting from place to place, food is for eating, poison could be for cleaning or killing bugs or something depending on the poison) that is not killing stuff.
A gun was made for killing, that is the main purpose or primary use for a gun.

 

[Stoked]

If we could ban cars and public transportation went everyones house and also public transportation took us wherever we want then that would be great!... but unfortunately cars are neccessary for day to day life (unlike guns).
I guess we could ban water, but then of course water is kind of neccessary for living (unlike guns)
We could ban fire, except fire is used for many many things that are neccessary, like keeping my house heated.
Falls.... impossible to ban that one.
choking... food is pretty neccessary for life.
Again, my point is that all those things listed have a primary use (fire for warmth or cooking ect., water for drinking, cars for getting from place to place, food is for eating, poison could be for cleaning or killing bugs or something depending on the poison) that is not killing stuff.
A gun was made for killing, that is the main purpose or primary use for a gun.

So was poisoning people but that still seems to be possible...

Simple fact is that owning a gun is my right wether you like it or not.

 

[fishonjazz]

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I agree stoked, it would be awesome if there was never a need for cars so that no one died from car wrecks... hopefully one day that is the case.

Maybe we will be able to teleport some day and then there will be no deaths from automobiles.... of course the bad side of that would be that supporters of guns would not be able to say "cars kill more people than guns, so lets ban cars" anymore. Still i think it would be cool if one day no one had to own a car
Not only would there be no more car related deaths but i would save alot of money on car payments and insurance and gas too.

It would be cool of some "weapon" could be invented that was just as effective as a gun for protection yourself, but not so deadly so that there would not be any accidental deaths. (like maybe some kind of super effective long range futuristic stun gun)
Would you be supportive of something like that?... or do you gun supporters just love guns because of the fact that they are great at killing?

 

[fishonjazz]

So was poisoning people but that still seems to be possible...

Poison is not made for killing silly.

Bleach is for cleaning (for example)
I think that most all poisons that exist have a different primary function other than killing and if they dont, then i say hell ya ban them if we dont need them!

 

[SaltyDawg]

If we could ban cars and public transportation went everyones house and also public transportation took us wherever we want then that would be great!... but unfortunately cars are neccessary for day to day life (unlike guns).
I guess we could ban water, but then of course water is kind of neccessary for living (unlike guns)
We could ban fire, except fire is used for many many things that are neccessary, like keeping my house heated.
Falls.... impossible to ban that one.
choking... food is pretty neccessary for life.
Again, my point is that all those things listed have a primary use (fire for warmth or cooking ect., water for drinking, cars for getting from place to place, food is for eating, poison could be for cleaning or killing bugs or something depending on the poison) that is not killing stuff.
A gun was made for killing, that is the main purpose or primary use for a gun.

Guns are necessary to hunt food. Sure, you can get food other ways in this day and age. And you can get from point a to point b without a car in this day and age too. And you certainly don't "need" a swimming pool.

 

[Stoked]

Poison is not made for killing silly.

Bleach is for cleaning (for example)
I think that most all poisons that exist have a different primary function other than killing and if they dont, then i say hell ya ban them if we dont need them!

But poisoning people is still outlawed but still seems to happen.

 

[fishonjazz]

But poisoning people is still outlawed but still seems to happen.

You never answered my question

If (hypothecally of course) something was invented that could protect you just as effectively as a gun, but was non lethal (like a long range futuristic type of stun gun) and could do everything a gun could do (hunting and stuff) but didn't kill, would you support getting rid of guns in favor of the "stun gun" type weapon?
Or is the killing the most important/fascinating/desirable thing about guns?

 

[Scat]

Poison is not made for killing silly.

I bet there are a number of rodents that would argue this point...

 

[fishonjazz]

But poisoning people is still outlawed but still seems to happen.

Yes death will always happen in some form....im saying it would be great if we could get rid of things that have a main purpose of killing.

Like i said, i dont think the main purpose of bleach is killing people...... just like the main purpose of knives is not killing people. Guns, grenades, rocket launchers and the like were made for killing and i think it would be great if we didn't need those things and we could get rid of them due to the lack of need.

Hell, im all for getting rid of bleach too, if we can find a new way to do what bleach does without the harmful chemicals.
Just like im all for getting rid of cars if we have another option that works as well as a car (in fact im buying a 2200 dollars electric bike next month to drive to work)

 

[fishonjazz]

I bet there are a number of rodents that would argue this point...

Ok then, in this hypothecal world if there are no bug/rodent issues then hell ya, im all for getting rid of bug spray and rat poison! That would be awesome cause there would be less people dying from poisoning as well.

 

[Stoked]

Ok then, in this hypothecal world if there are no bug/rodent issues then hell ya, im all for getting rid of bug spray and rat poison! That would be awesome cause there would be less people dying from poisoning as well.

Last I checked bleach was not used for rodents and bugs...