This is why I'll never miss Grayson Allen

Discussion in 'Utah Jazz' started by sahlensguy, Jul 12, 2019 at 9:25 AM.

  1. Archie Moses

    Archie Moses Well-Known Member

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    I could have saved myself some time with my last post and just responded this about this post.
     
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  2. str8line

    str8line Well-Known Member Contributor 2019 Award Winner

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    So many people up in arms about two nothing fouls. If it were anyone but Grayson the first one wouldn't have been flagrant and the second might not have been. His arm barely grazed his head.
     
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  3. bigmike

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    Fair enough. Sorry if that was snippy, I'm a little fired up this morning.
     
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  4. Archie Moses

    Archie Moses Well-Known Member

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    Legal screens don't involve holding someone with your arm. It's a smart screen and Allen over reacted, but fighting through and pushing off the hold is just a foul. The guy did a great job selling it too.
     
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  5. bigmike

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    Fine. Maybe the screen wasn't legal. That doesn't mean the blatant push to the head isn't a flagrant. And you certainly can't argue it's not a pattern with him.
     
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  6. Archie Moses

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    He over reacts and it's a pattern. He was frustrated and tried to push the guy off him, but I don't think he targeted the guy's head. He let's his emotions get the best of him, but I still think it's just a common foul. I do get why he's being monitored though so really it is whatever.
     
  7. bigmike

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    It bums me out. In a lot of moments I like Grayson. Realistically he's probably a fringe NBA guy who may have the talent to stick, I hope for him it doesn't derail his career.
     
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    There was a thread about Grayson on another website and I counted 15 people who made negative comments about his face. People seem to hate his face. It seems like both Grayson and his critics are in the throws of something psychological and I'm slightly intrigued.
     
  9. Archie Moses

    Archie Moses Well-Known Member

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    Not many fringe guys can score 40 plus during their rookie year while getting very few minutes imo.

    I think he's an NBA player and can have a 10 year plus career in the NBA. He's just got to dump the bitching attitude.
     
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  10. Jack Strop

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    Once a prick, always a prick. I excoriated Lindsey for making the pick. Almost anyone available at that point would have been a better choice. But at least the ******* is not the Jazz' problem anymore. Glad Dennis could dump Allen on Memphis and keep the dead guy.
     
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    Hate the pick. I'm sure he would still be available in the second round. What a waste of asset by drafting him at 23.
     
  12. jom2003

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    Last summer was a disaster
     
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  13. jom2003

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    1, that wasn't a NBA game. More of a G leaguer showcase.
    2, he got to 40 pt on poor efficiency.
    3, he won't have much of a NBA career at all if he doesn't pick up his defense.
     
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  14. Archie Moses

    Archie Moses Well-Known Member

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    Wait, what? Are you saying the Clipper game he dropped 40 wasn't an NBA game? Yeah, mmmkayy, guy.
     
  15. jom2003

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    Did you even see the players who actually played in that game?
     
  16. Archie Moses

    Archie Moses Well-Known Member

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    Playing against scrubs on an NBA team is >>>> than any summer league game. How many guys are dropping 40 in summer league? Point is, scoring 40 in an NBA game at the end of the season with starters sitting is not easy. He has potential.
     
  17. jom2003

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    Best scenario for him would be a less athletic pat connaughton,who was a second rounder. I'm OK with DL taking Grayson at the second round, but taking him in the first round was basically a waste. I'm sure Memphis values a late first round draft pick more than Grayson Allen when they did the trade with us.
     
  18. Archie Moses

    Archie Moses Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, they were on an NBA roster. You act like it was against the dudes at the YMCA.

    Lol. I just looked at the box score. It had the Clippers starting 5 and they played heavy minutes. Zubac, Danilo, shamet, Bev and SA.

    Did you?
     
  19. jom2003

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    How many people play defense by swing their arms at people like that though?
     
  20. Engorged On Unborn Gore

    Engorged On Unborn Gore Well-Known Member

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    Allen is setting himself up for an entire career of getting clowned by NBA players and refs.
     
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