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That's why a qualified that statement with "realistic". Because realistically none of what you are posting will ever happen. Release 75% of the inmates in Jail? So you'd basically be ****ting on the victims of these cases.

As to your so-called "victimless" crimes (I would venture a guess your speaking of narcotics?), I have a couple of things to relay. Having taken children out of dope-houses with untreated illnesses (parents opted to use their gov't med assistance to get the next fix), sleeping in the filthiest of conditions (we're talking pretty bad stuff, the least of which being used syringes in the very beds they were asleep in and I wish I could say these were isolated incidents), I can tell you that hard narcotics are no "victimless" crime. Not to mention the thefts, sex offenses, traffic accidents, and homicides that are committed under the influence of or over narcotics.

Next, I was interviewing a meth-dealer and the case was wrapped up. We had developed a decent rapport as he knew that he was going away for sometime and accepted it as part of "the game". We were just kind of BS-ing on the way to the Jail and we got on the topic of the effects of various drugs. I made the comment "They say dope is a victimless crime." He laughed sarcastically and said "Have you ever met my customers?"

If "caring" is your cross to bear then care for the victims.
 
That's why a qualified that statement with "realistic". Because realistically none of what you are posting will ever happen. Release 75% of the inmates in Jail? So you'd basically be ****ting on the victims of these cases.

As to your so-called "victimless" crimes (I would venture a guess your speaking of narcotics?), I have a couple of things to relay. Having taken children out of dope-houses with untreated illnesses (parents opted to use their gov't med assistance to get the next fix), sleeping in the filthiest of conditions (we're talking pretty bad stuff, the least of which being used syringes in the very beds they were asleep in and I wish I could say these were isolated incidents), I can tell you that hard narcotics are no "victimless" crime. Not to mention the thefts, sex offenses, traffic accidents, and homicides that are committed under the influence of or over narcotics.

Next, I was interviewing a meth-dealer and the case was wrapped up. We had developed a decent rapport as he knew that he was going away for sometime and accepted it as part of "the game". We were just kind of BS-ing on the way to the Jail and we got on the topic of the effects of various drugs. I made the comment "They say dope is a victimless crime." He laughed sarcastically and said "Have you ever met my customers?"

If "caring" is your cross to bear then care for the victims.

meh, difference of opinion. I believe in the right for adults to be adults. Well done...

The France thing was a joke, I don't know if any prison system up to this point works, but that's no excuse to not keep trying
 
Nice to see a parent taking personal responsibilty for their children, rather then blaming the school system, the gov't, society, or whomever else.

Shouldn't the parent be mowing the lawn then. These kids learned their bad habits somewhere, you think it's a coincidence that's it's all the kids getting bad grades and not just one of them. Monkey see monkey do.
 
Shouldn't the parent be mowing the lawn then. These kids learned their bad habits somewhere, you think it's a coincidence that's it's all the kids getting bad grades and not just one of them. Monkey see monkey do.

Which is what I was trying to say, until everyone flipped a bitch about prisons.
 
Sounds to me like France's system works just fine. Inmates taking themselves out of the gene pool in record numbers, saving the state and general populace money and reducing the risk of recidivism. I like it.
 
Sounds to me like France's system works just fine. Inmates taking themselves out of the gene pool in record numbers, saving the state and general populace money and reducing the risk of recidivism. I like it.

I could be convinced of the "take no prisoners" form of prison reform...

At least it's consistent
 
meh, difference of opinion. I believe in the right for adults to be adults. Well done...

I also believe in the right for adults to be adults. What about the rights of those kids Boondock mentioned? Do they have the right not to sleep in needle infested beds? Do they deserve to have their illnesses treated? Does a 4 year old deserve to not have to fend for itself (feed itself, bathe itself, dress itself, etc.) just because Mommy is cracked out?
 
I also believe in the right for adults to be adults. What about the rights of those kids Boondock mentioned? Do they have the right not to sleep in needle infested beds? Do they deserve to have their illnesses treated? Does a 4 year old deserve to not have to fend for itself (feed itself, bathe itself, dress itself, etc.) just because Mommy is cracked out?

Crack baby's and crack whores seem to be the detriment to every libertarian argument.
 
I also believe in the right for adults to be adults. What about the rights of those kids Boondock mentioned? Do they have the right not to sleep in needle infested beds? Do they deserve to have their illnesses treated? Does a 4 year old deserve to not have to fend for itself (feed itself, bathe itself, dress itself, etc.) just because Mommy is cracked out?

All of those conditions are already illegal, even if the parent is not taking drugs. Making the drugs illegal as well doesn't offer significant additional protection.
 
All of those conditions are already illegal, even if the parent is not taking drugs. Making the drugs illegal as well doesn't offer significant additional protection.

Do you believe in the extra punishment that a felony being tagged with the moniker "hate crime" adds?
 
grabbin dem goddamn bootstraps is teh goddamn americn way if there ever was a goddamn thing as that.

the Joker was RIGHT THE **** ON with his concern re: pairing academic work with punishment. I'm a teacher and I completely endorse his worry.
 
grabbin dem goddamn bootstraps is teh goddamn americn way if there ever was a goddamn thing as that.

the Joker was RIGHT THE **** ON with his concern re: pairing academic work with punishment. I'm a teacher and I completely endorse his worry.

I know you're afraid to say where you teach but what do you teach?
 
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