This season will vindicate Ty Corbin

[franklin]

Corbin was not trying to lose though.
Also he was the head coach of the jazz for more than one year.

Last nights game is the best time i have had watching a jazz game in about 4 years.



Edit: Also, while we were rooting for losses to move up in the lottery and aquire a talented player, we were also rooting for losses because we were ready for the corbin era to be over and figured losing alot would also help with that

Would you stop bitching about teh Jazz and go root for another team them!!!!

Signed,

fishonjazz, post-2014

 

[GVC]

But sometimes you just need to test your talent and see where they truly are instead of guessing and never really trying it out.

I'm not sure what this means. All 5 young players got starter minutes last season, and ample opportunity to initiate the offense. They were all tested.

 

[fishonjazz]

Would you stop bitching about teh Jazz and go root for another team them!!!!

Signed,

fishonjazz, post-2014

I actually rarely bitch about the jazz.

You are the bitcher.

 

[Coach Ellis]

I'm not sure what this means. All 5 young players got starter minutes last season, and ample opportunity to initiate the offense. They were all tested.

In terms of playing time and experience, you are correct. They did get starter minutes, but they rarely were used together to see how well they played together. Despite having them on the same roster for 3+ seasons, we have a very limited sampling of how Favors and Kanter function together on the court. Same thing for Hayward and Burks.

You have a valid point that they got starters minutes, but Burks has rarely played as a starter against starters. There were so many things that could have been done to develop these players more than giving them set roles behind the vets. There was no downside to experimenting with lineups. There was no downside to having Jefferson or Williams come off the bench while Kanter and Burks started a few games, just to see. Lineups and substitutions just didn't make sense to me. There just didn't seem to be any creativity under Corbin.

The plain and simple fact is that Quin Snyder is willing to play the same guys together that Corbin wouldn't. He has shown already that he has confidence in them and they play like it. I like Corbin as a person. I even think that he's a great assistant coach. He was in over his head as the top dog from day one. He's in Sacramento now and seems to be an asset in his current capacity. Good for him. I'm still glad that Quin Snyder is the head coach of the Utah Jazz. I think he's going to lead this team to a LOT of success.

 

[Getting Traded]

Is Franklin an Alt of GVC, because I know that GVC has been here longer? Just wondering why he is so staunchly defending Franklin and keeping this thread, which I wish the mods would close, alive.

 

[The Midnight]

This thread should have the title changed to:


"This season will vindicate Ty Corbon - NOT!!!!!"

 

[GVC]

Is Franklin an Alt of GVC, because I know that GVC has been here longer? Just wondering why he is so staunchly defending Franklin and keeping this thread, which I wish the mods would close, alive.

There's actually a decent discussion going on now. I realize you're only here for the circle jerks and witch burning, but some of us actually like sharing ideas.

 

[GVC]

Despite having them on the same roster for 3+ seasons, we have a very limited sampling of how Favors and Kanter function together on the court. Same thing for Hayward and Burks.

I think this is grossly overstated. Kanter and Favors had played 2105 minutes together prior to this season. Hayward and Burks had played 2157 minutes together prior to this season. They've also played preseason games together and participated in practices together.

There was no downside to experimenting with lineups.

Kanter started out in the starting lineup, and ended up in the starting lineup last season. Burks started 12 games, including the last four. There was some experimentation. Further, there absolutely is downside in using units that don't work well together. This has already been discussed.

 

[The Midnight]

There is a HUGE difference between what Quin brings to this team compared to Corbin, it's night and day.


Anyone who can't see that is being paid by Corbin to troll on JazzFanz.

 

[Getting Traded]

There's actually a decent discussion going on now. I realize you're only here for the circle jerks and witch burning, but some of us actually like sharing ideas.

LOL ... no, the only ones I want to lynch are gay vegetarian communists ... it's not the discussion that bothers me, it's the Corbin label that bothers me. Whatever ... I'm only concerned with the future of the team, and it's looking good. What happened last year is moot now. The only player that concerns me is Kanter because he has not lived up to expectations and a lot of us blamed Corbin for his lack of development. Now, I don't know what to think.

 

[GVC]

LOL ... no, the only ones I want to lynch are gay vegetarian communists ... it's not the discussion that bothers me, it's the Corbin label that bothers me. Whatever ... I'm only concerned with the future of the team, and it's looking good. What happened last year is moot now. The only player that concerns me is Kanter because he has not lived up to expectations and a lot of us blamed Corbin for his lack of development. Now, I don't know what to think.

Then stay out of the thread.

 

[Getting Traded]

1. This obsession with starting is misplaced.

2. Multiple changes? Trey and Marvin were injured to start the year. Even if Kanter were going to start to begin last season, moving him out of the lineup represented the ONLY change to the starting lineup/player roles before the end of the season.

3. Bringing Burks off the bench allowed him to initiate the offense more, and perhaps develop as an offensive hub. In the starting lineup, he would have been used almost exclusively as a safety valve and off-ball player. Starting a place holder who had no future with the team allowed this to happen.

It wasn't just his lineups (though I had lots of problems with his matchups) ... do you remember the ****ty way the Jazz were playing? No ball movement, no hustle or effort, little running rather slowing it down, throw it inside and stand around and watch ... wtf, GVC, you're supposed to be an astute observer