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Well that's ****ing stupid.

Jazz possibly beat Houston last year.

Highly doubtful. Houston was extremely good and Jazz were down their starting PG. Do you think the Jazz beat OKC without Favors? Do you think Mirotic helps more than Favors did in that series? I get that Favors is pretty frustrating at times because he doesn't possess the same fire as guys like Gobert, Ingles, Rubio, etc., but he's still good player and can **** on Mirotic when he wants.
 
Highly doubtful. Houston was extremely good and Jazz were down their starting PG. Do you think the Jazz beat OKC without Favors? Do you think Mirotic helps more than Favors did in that series? I get that Favors is pretty frustrating at times because he doesn't possess the same fire as guys like Gobert, Ingles, Rubio, etc., but he's still good player and can **** on Mirotic when he wants.
There's just a lot of revisionist history going on surrounding Mirotic. He was as inconsistent as Rodney Hood for his entire career, and it looked like that was going to continue after the Pelicans traded for him and he was pretty bad for nearly two months.

He owes a lot to Anthony Davis and playing in a fast-paced system where there isnt as much emphasis on defense. He's playing consistently for the first time in his career now in, wait for it.... a contract year.
 
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There's just a lot of revisionist history going on surrounding Mirotic. He was as inconsistent as Rodney Hood for his entire career, and it looked like that was going to continue after the Pelicans traded for him and he was pretty bad for nearly two months.

He owes a lot to Anthony Davis and playing in a fast-paced system where there isnt as much emphasis on defense. He's playing consistently for the first time in his career now in, wait for it.... a contract year.
Agree to disagree. He surely has had ups and downs, but my take on him (then and now) has been consistent and has been regarding his specific skills that we need, namely: 1. volume three point shooting and 2. rebounding. He doesn’t have to shooting well for either of those to have an impact on the floor. Anything else he brings is gravy. His play this year has shown how much gravy there is.
 
Jazz put on a historic streak to the playoffs last year. The chemistry and Favors were two major factors.

Swapping in Mirotic for Favors and we don't make the playoffs imo.
 
The Jazz could use more scorers/playmakers. If Mirotic was on the Jazz instead of Favors and the offense was struggling to produce shots then people would pine for Favors.
 
Agree to disagree. He surely has had ups and downs, but my take on him (then and now) has been consistent and has been regarding his specific skills that we need, namely: 1. volume three point shooting and 2. rebounding. He doesn’t have to shooting well for either of those to have an impact on the floor. Anything else he brings is gravy. His play this year has shown how much gravy there is.
I dont know what you are disagreeing with exactly. I think everything I stated in that post was pretty objective.

I'm not saying he wouldnt be good on the Jazz. I just don't think he would be as good as he is with the Pelicans. I think it's easy to look at his stats this year and be upset and act like it was a no-brainer decision, it wasn't.
 
I dont know what you are disagreeing with exactly. I think everything I stated in that post was pretty objective.

I'm not saying he wouldnt be good on the Jazz. I just don't think he would be as good as he is with the Pelicans. I think it's easy to look at his stats this year and be upset and act like it was a no-brainer decision, it wasn't.
I think it was a no-brainer decision without this year’s performance considered, and if you go back i was pretty clear on that. If he was on our team averaging 15/8, while getting up 6 threes, it was a no brainer. If he’s doing 13/7.5 while opening up the floor, then it was still worth it. My arguments for him are irrespective of the fact that he’s averaging 19/11 this year. Hence gravy.
 
Also, a no brainer when you look at where we’re at with where I had said — in a tough position to find another offensive threat, still looking for a legit PF, and not having any options that can grab a damn rebound. My argument was that we wouldn’t stumble on this opportunity again.

We haven’t.
 
In the meantime we need defense and effort on a level equal or above tonight's. It'll keep us afloat until we can address some of the mentioned issues.
 
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