Thoughts and Prayers

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  1. str8line

    str8line Well-Known Member Contributor

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    I'm not surprised one bit. It would satiate his ego very much. He longs to be a Hitler.
     

  2. Red

    Red Well-Known Member

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    The Atlantic just published an essay describing a chapter in American history that is not well known to Americans. Madison Grant's 1916 work, "The Passing of the Great Race" was even cited by Hitler, who referred to Grant's book as "my bible". In view of the rise of white nationalism, this essay is educational, to say the least:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/583258/

    "The seed of Nazism’s ultimate objective—the preservation of a pure white race, uncontaminated by foreign blood—was in fact sown with striking success in the United States. What is judged extremist today was once the consensus of a powerful cadre of the American elite, well-connected men who eagerly seized on a false doctrine of “race suicide” during the immigration scare of the early 20th century. They included wealthy patricians, intellectuals, lawmakers, even several presidents. Perhaps the most important among them was a blue blood with a very impressive mustache, Madison Grant. He was the author of a 1916 book called The Passing of the Great Race, which spread the doctrine of race purity all over the globe.

    Grant’s purportedly scientific argument that the exalted “Nordic” race that had founded America was in peril, and all of modern society’s accomplishments along with it, helped catalyze nativist legislators in Congress to pass comprehensive restrictionist immigration policies in the early 1920s. His book went on to become Adolf Hitler’s “bible,” as the führer wrote to tell him. Grant’s doctrine has since been rejuvenated and rebranded by his ideological descendants as “white genocide” (the term genocide hadn’t yet been coined in Grant’s day). In an introduction to the 2013 edition of another of Grant’s works, the white nationalist Richard Spencer warns that “one possible outcome of the ongoing demographic transformation is a thoroughly miscegenated, and thus homogeneous and ‘assimilated,’ nation, which would have little resemblance to the White America that came before it.” This language is vintage Grant.
     
  3. Alfalfa

    Alfalfa Well-Known Member

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    Fully anonymous imageboards have become a hive for violent extremists over the past decade. Those places should be under continuous ddos, so that its users are denied a platform and are forced to moderate their tone on forums that offer a much lower level of anonymity. Like the white supremacists on this forum.
     
  4. Red

    Red Well-Known Member

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    And lo and behold, Mr. Trump deleted that tweet. No matter, it was the thought that counted.

    https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/3172413002
     
  5. Alfalfa

    Alfalfa Well-Known Member

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    Forums for dirtbag right wingers are already trying to push the idea that the attack was a leftist false flag operation to make them look bad.
     
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  6. Harambe

    Harambe Well-Known Member Contributor

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    /r/the_donald/
     
  7. Alfalfa

    Alfalfa Well-Known Member

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    r/conservatives as well. I don't frequent cesspools like 4chan, so I can't imagine what's being posted on there, since even the comment sections of Fox News is full of people celebrating the attack.
     
  8. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    Well that was predictable.

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  9. Harambe

    Harambe Well-Known Member Contributor

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    You know... back in the day 4chan was interesting. Sometimes. Even the shock **** was hilarious once you came to terms with the absurdity of it.

    I don't even know how people follow conversation over there anymore. Haven't tried for probably the last 5 years.
     
  10. Alfalfa

    Alfalfa Well-Known Member

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    First time I visited 4chan was in 2008, I think. It was full of animal and child abuse imagery. There was a ton of people being "ironically" racist. They then kicked off the pedos to 8chan. I visited a couple of years ago, and it's practically a white supremacists board now.

    Never personally found any of that stuff interesting.
     
  11. Alfalfa

    Alfalfa Well-Known Member

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    Hilariously, 8chan got a major gaming publisher to do an AMA there a couple of weeks back. The clueless gaming company thought it was just a normal board. Altho the slogan "shota is loli with a couple of extra inches" should've tipped them that something was wrong. /shrug
     
  12. Alfalfa

    Alfalfa Well-Known Member

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  13. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    I have no idea what the **** 4chan or 8chan or any other chan even is.

    I guess ignorance is bliss in this case.

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  14. Jazzta

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    There’s a case to be made for controlled immigration. But that statement from that senator is totally condemnable.
     
  15. Alfalfa

    Alfalfa Well-Known Member

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    Not sure that's an appropriate comment to make given the situation.

    But I do agree we must at least control immigration from Europe. Too many white people in the US as is.
     
  16. Harambe

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    Most liberals don't mind small, incremental upgrades. ****, they agreed to allocate a billion or so for additional(albeit minor) Normandy style fencing. But the left doesn't want to fund a wall. It makes us(as a country) look like jackasses, and spending a ton on additions that won't justify the cost probably ever.

    Now... what could change minds? I think if you're going have a chance, get a fair and legitimate estimate on how many actual border jumpers come across, and about how many the cost would reduce. We have no consistently agreed upon data on that, just a lot of estimates on how many illegal immigrants are here. This number includes those that arrived by legitimate points of entry. A wall, nor additional normandy fences, would help that. Without a common understanding where that is, it's just gut feelings fighting gut feelings and will always devolve into name calling.
     
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  17. Alfalfa

    Alfalfa Well-Known Member

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    Sorry I snapped at you. Of course there's a case for controlled immigration. I just didn't appreciate the comment in the context of a politician saying it was the murdered people's fault for being where they don't belong.
     
  18. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    Is everyone in Europe white?

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  19. Alfalfa

    Alfalfa Well-Known Member

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    No. And it wasn't a serious comment.
     
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  20. JazzGal

    JazzGal Well-Known Member Contributor

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    My heart hurts. So much hatred in the world. I do believe good triumphs over evil, but days like this put dents in the belief.
     

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