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Here is an easy one. I think that we will all agree(maybe).

Require a background check for any gun sale dealer or not. This isn't the 1980s. I can download an app on my phone and have a company send me a free reader so that I can accept credit cards. Anyone can perform a background check. It would be a lot like renting an apartment, the buyer would pay for it. It would probably be like 20 bucks and not a big deal.

We still allow private gun sales but we require a background check. Would anybody be against that?
 
♪alt13 said:
Why do you make **** up even when there is an argument to be made? Pulling **** out of your *** doesn't help your case.

"Sixty-six percent of Americans want stricter gun control laws — the highest level recorded by Quinnipiac University since it started polling the issue after Sandy Hook."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/amp/poll-support-gun-control-hits-record-high-n849686
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not commenting on the specific accuracy of either your statement or Thriller's - - just pointing out that 66% of Americans wanting STRICTER gun control laws does not negate the idea that 85% of Americans might support gun control. The higher number would include those satisfied with current laws who might not favor stricter controls.
 
JustTheTip said:
3?

Wanna list those for me?
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Dude, I googled it. I'm assuming you're capable of doing the same, especially since you're the one telling me to do research.
From what I remember though, let's start with the North Hollywood Shootout.
 
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I’m not going to say I fully believe her stats, as I’ve not looked into them. I’m just putting this here because it’s relevant to the discussion happening.

 
Bulletproof said:
I've mentioned it here before, but I kind of like the idea of going to a militia system. Individuals could privately own hunting rifles (no semi-automatics) and a revolver. One of each per individual. To own anything more than that you must belong to a militia. The militia would have its own membership criteria, training, certification, etc.. The militia would have to maintain an armory and keep records of all weapons going in and out of the armory. Militia members can only have a limited number of guns checked out to keep at home for self defense. Guns can be checked out for outings and target practice. If a member of a militia commits a gun related crime the militia could have its certification revoked and it could be closed down.

Just a rough idea, but I think a militia system could address a number of issues with an armed citizenry.
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So you want to turn the gun issue into another rich white man's country club? Members of the militia would be subject to a vote by the board on how much they must pay every month to remain in the club. Typical formula for rich white man dominance of something.

Also, there really isn't an argument against owning multiple bolt action rifles, shotguns, or even .22 LR. What, am I going to strap 20 .30-06 on my back and storm an elementary school? Shotguns are already physically limited in capacity unless you have one of those insane magazine mods (make those Class III) and typically take a long time to reload. .22 LR isn't a very effective killing weapon.

Also @https://jazzfanz.com/members/%E2%99%AAalt13.2530/ , muzzleloaders would most likely be left out of this equation altogether. I'm not aware of any restrictions on them other than the common carrying loaded while in a vehicle or on a hunt. I didn't even have to go through a background check when I bought my cheap piece of junk. I picked it up off an isle as a kit in one of those hard plastic packages that take a ton of effort to get off and hit the checkout isle. It's an antiquated weapon - very fun to shoot btw - that isn't in need of additional regulation.
 
franklin said:
So you want to turn the gun issue into another rich white man's country club? Members of the militia would be subject to a vote by the board on how much they must pay every month to remain in the club. Typical formula for rich white man dominance of something.

Also, there really isn't an argument against owning multiple bolt action rifles, shotguns, or even .22 LR. What, am I going to strap 20 .30-06 on my back and storm an elementary school? Shotguns are already physically limited in capacity unless you have one of those insane magazine mods (make those Class III) and typically take a long time to reload. .22 LR isn't a very effective killing weapon.

Also @https://jazzfanz.com/members/%E2%99%AAalt13.2530/ , muzzleloaders would most likely be left out of this equation altogether. I'm not aware of any restrictions on them other than the common carrying loaded while in a vehicle or on a hunt. I didn't even have to go through a background check when I bought my cheap piece of junk. I picked it up off an isle as a kit in one of those hard plastic packages that take a ton of effort to get off and hit the checkout isle. It's an antiquated weapon - very fun to shoot btw - that isn't in need of additional regulation.
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I don't "want" a militia system... I want to explore the idea. To think about what that would mean.
 
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