But don't you think it's going down the wrong road? I mean how many countries in the world has their teachers carry guns or weapons?
You're not fixing the problem at the root.
But don't you think it's going down the wrong road? I mean how many countries in the world has their teachers carry guns or weapons?
You're not fixing the problem at the root.
J
JAZZGASM
Guest
Maybe. But it is a start. I don't see an immediate fix, do you?
I dunno, I'd rather fix the fundamental issue at hand than do something hasty and going down a route you'd regret later.
Instead of putting up barbwires around every single schools in the country and turn them into barracks for kids, why not just make it harder for people to get automatic assault weapons designed to kill hundreds at a time?
I really don't get it.
I really don't get it.
That's cause you're using reason and common sense, that has no place in America, especially when it comes to guns.
J
JAZZGASM
Guest
Name me 1 country in the developed world where teachers are forced to handle weapons to protect the children.
J
JAZZGASM
Guest
I am fine with a ban on semi-auto rifles. Hand guns cause more deaths. I am even fine with a ban on all guns. But when reference automatic weapons and barb wire I don't have much to say, but you'd fit right in with most of our politicians.
The fact is, even banning guns, with our current laws, will take time. Getting the votes, passing laws, overpowering lobbyists, going against or amending the Constitution... As you can see, a plethora of huge hurdles to jump through. The cost along of the governmental taking for confiscating guns, not to mention the backlash from many armed citizens would be a mess. Gun control logically has to happen in stages. And with the laws in place, there has to be some compromise, which our politicians and most citizens are unwilling to do. In the interim, I would feel safer if my kids teachers and administrators were trained for a shooter situation. I think training, and secured non-lethal but incapacitating protective devices would be a good stop-gap in the interim. I don't like the idea of conceal carry by teachers, but "gun-free zones" (i.e. targets) in our current environment scares me even more.
We are doing active shooter scenario training at work at the moment, which is a sign of the times i suppose. For me guns for the most part have no place in society, I understand farmers need them, professional shooters but most people have no proper use for them. i'd also like to see the police gradually disarmed (I've seen enough mental health patients nearly grab coppers gun to think it is inevitable.) but that will never happen. I think the UK do it well, most police are unarmed but they have highly trained armed response units to react to dangerous situations.
Miggs
Well-Known Member
As critical as I am (I’m tough to live with), I think I'm an eternal optimist. I look at all this at times very sadly yes, but overall as a good thing. We've reached the tipping point and laws will be passed to help the situation. It reminds me in a different way of the 80's with MADD and SADD. Things had gotten bad and we grew a moral conscience as a country. Things had to change. They did. Especially laws for offenders. On top of gun ownership laws and background checks changing for the better, that's what I hope. Consequences for not only those who commit these crimes but also for those who make threats, jokes or not, online or elsewhere, also receive criminal prosecution. Play time is over.
