Thoughts on Trading Bogdanvic

[KqWIN]

I've been thinking it's overdue but I hadn't considered the tax implications as well. That's even more motivation to do it.

Also, he's getting old, he'll turn 33 before the playoffs. It would be wise to cash in now.

I still think the tax implications could be a bigger deal than we think. IIRC, Locke mentioned that he doesn’t think the Jazz will pay the huge tax bill we are due for.

It’s tough to trade a player who is ,on the surface at least, one of the better players on your team when you’re going all in to win for money reasons…but I really think we can do both.

I don’t want to be the Bogey hater guy, but out of all our players I think he’s the one who’s reputation and contract exceeds his actual value the most.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

If the Jazz can upgrade Bogey or O'Neale, they should look into it. I don't mind Bogey though. He's a high-gravity floor spacer who can attack a closeout or a mismatch. He's like a Gallinari-type stretch 4. I just wish he could shoot off the dribble. Jazz would be favorites to win it if they had Khris Middleton.

 

[SteakNEggs]

Somewhat agree but as others have stated what are we getting for him and who's going to give that up?

 

[NAOS]

Not sure if it’s been mentioned, but Bogie has been dealing with (non-Covid) illness for 2 games.

 

[campaignist]

I don’t want to be the Bogey hater guy, but out of all our players I think he’s the one who’s reputation and contract exceeds his actual value the most.

Bingo. Love the guy but this is right.

It sucks thinking of trades, there's basically no player on the team i don't like anymore

 

[jom2003]

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Memphis is getting another elite shooter to space the floor for Morant. Bogey could provide some much needed vet experience to help a young Memphis team for their playoffs push. Also getting rid of Dillon Bricks that stood in the way of their young guys in Bane and Melton who are absolutely balling at the moment.

Jazz get a good young prospect in Clarke who fell out of Jenkins rotation but could be good use to the Jazz as a functional 4/small ball 5.

 

[NAOS]

I like Bogie, and I’m sure the other players like going into battle with him. I’d only trade him for a clear upgrade on the defensive end. The name that always comes up for me is Robert Covington. This deal probably has no chance of happening, but Portland might panic at some point and push for more 3pt shooting (like they did last year). And maybe the addition of Nance makes them more confident in this kind of swap.

EDIT: wow, looks like Covington might really be fading. I probably wouldn’t do this trade.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I still think the tax implications could be a bigger deal than we think. IIRC, Locke mentioned that he doesn’t think the Jazz will pay the huge tax bill we are due for.

It’s tough to trade a player who is ,on the surface at least, one of the better players on your team when you’re going all in to win for money reasons…but I really think we can do both.

I don’t want to be the Bogey hater guy, but out of all our players I think he’s the one who’s reputation and contract exceeds his actual value the most.

I don't think Bogey is overpaid. I think the Jazz would consider moving him, however, because he's a bit redundant with Ingles. In the Jazz's game vs. Denver, Quin closed with Ingles on the floor instead of Bogey.

Mitchell, Conley and Ingles put three on-ball creators on the floor at the same time, which fits what Quin likes to do. I could also see Rudy Gay eating into Bogey's minutes, because it would give us more size and defense. A lineup with Conley, Mitchell, Ingles, Gay and Gobert might turn out to be our best 5-man group.

 

[The Fresh Prince]

Personally I wouldn't trade anyone because I think the additions we made in the offseason might just be enough to get us over the hump in the playoffs. But if I was going to make a trade, I would trade Clarkson and move Bogey to the bench to take his place as the scorer off the bench. Bogey's just so much more efficient with his scoring that I would have a really hard time letting him go and keeping JC. I Bogey could thrive off the bench and get more touches because he'd be playing less minutes with Mitchell and Conley.

Woah. Absolutely NO to trading Clarkson. He's a perfect fit for our team.

 

[KqWIN]

I don't think Bogey is overpaid. I think the Jazz would consider moving him, however, because he's a bit redundant with Ingles. In the Jazz's game vs. Denver, Quin closed with Ingles on the floor instead of Bogey.

Mitchell, Conley and Ingles put three on-ball creators on the floor at the same time, which fits what Quin likes to do. I could also see Rudy Gay eating into Bogey's minutes, because it would give us more size and defense.

One of my complaints with Quin has been being rigid on closing with Bogey instead of Ingles. He rarely did that last year so it surprised me when I fled got the call the other night. Some may call that sour soup but I think Ingles is damn good and as a numbers guy it’s not really close.

Gay provides us another option like Bogey if we need another scorer/shooter. Clarkson should also be seen as an option because it’s not like Bogey provides much with his size. I’m not saying Bogey should never finish games, but Ingles should be the default and it should be an open decision night to night.

As far as Bogey being overpaid, I don’t think he necessarily is either. He would get paid if he was on the open market. I do think his reputation exceeds his value, however, but that reputation holds true in a trade discussion.

I think Roco is seen in a similar light around the league and he got two firsts in a trade. I think Bogey might be able to yield the same if there’s buyer. I keep looking at NOP as a team ready to make a desperate and bad move. If we can get Hart and some picks I’d be for it.

 

[Jingled]

Woah. Absolutely NO to trading Clarkson. He's a perfect fit for our team.

I mean, you could say that about pretty much all of our top 7 players...Mitchell, Gobert, Bogey, Ingles, Conley, Clarkson, O'Neale are all a perfect fit for our team. I'm honestly not sure why we'd want to trade any of them.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I like Bogie, and I’m sure the other players like going into battle with him. I’d only trade him for a clear upgrade on the defensive end. The name that always comes up for me is Robert Covington. This deal probably has no chance of happening, but Portland might panic at some point and push for more 3pt shooting (like they did last year). And maybe the addition of Nance makes them more confident in this kind of swap.

EDIT: wow, looks like Covington might really be fading. I probably wouldn’t do this trade.

Covington is pretty overrated. He gets deflections but he plays a lot of matador defense too.