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Nobody except maybe tourists drinks Fosters in Australia. I'd consider a 3.2% beer a mid strength and a horrible waste of money. Most beer sold here is between 4.5 and 5.5%, unless you're in a stadium and they'll offer a variety of light beers and mid strengths at 9 or ten bucks for 400ml at bars while they sell cans of full strength bourbon and coke or rum and coke next to them at 14 bucks a can. Work that out.

Please keep in mind that when you say 3.2% you are actually talking about a 4%abv beer. 3.2% is in alcohol by weight, which is not typically used in the beer industry, just how the laws were written after the end of prohibition. Since ABW gives a lower number it wasn't as scary for those who wanted to keep prohibition.

That's kind of what I was saying. Although I'd bet Corona is more popular in Mexico than Foster's is in the AU. I just doubt it is far and away the most popular beer in Mexico.
 
The Zion Curtain will be coming down in Utah. The current bill (which is up to 150 pages :rolleyes:) seems like it has a good chance of passing. Unfortunately like every liquor law in Utah it is 1 step forward and a couple steps back. By getting the zion curtain dropped we will be upping our liquor markup to 88%, which is outrageous. That vast majority of Utahns want the zion curtain to go away including the majority of LDS people in Utah. It also sounds like the decision makers in Utah (the LDS church leaders) have looked at the bill and will approve it.

I am with GF though. The biggest thing that needs to change is the tap law. I can walk into a bar and have them poor me an 11% beer from a bottle into my glass but it is illegal for them to fill my glass up from a tap with anything over 4%. I can walk into a brewery and buy a cold 6 pack of beer that is 11% but I cant have them fill a growler and cap it off if it is over 4%, even though it is less beer than the 6 pack. It hampers Utah Breweries quite a bit. One good thing is that Utah bars and Breweries are the best at finding loop holes.

Utah also needs to get rid of the rule that the Liquor store cant refrigerate anything. It hurts the quality of liquor that breweries and other liquors have to have their booze sit in a warehouse warm for an extended period of time and then be put on the shelfs warm and then the customer has to refrigerate it to get it back to cold but the product has already been hurt and wont recover. Mountain West Cider gets very grumpy about this fact. They do this so you cant drink the booze right away. But people with real drinking problems or who want to get drunk right away are not buying beer at the liquor store and even if they are they dont care about it being cold. They also need to expand the number of liquor stores or at the very least have bigger parking lots. It is a nightmare to go into many of the stores. If they had more stores, shorter lines, better parking and better hours they would make more money for the state.
 
That's kind of what I was saying. Although I'd bet Corona is more popular in Mexico than Foster's is in the AU. I just doubt it is far and away the most popular beer in Mexico.

I would guess plenty of people there drink it but it is probably way more popular with tourists/vacationers than people who live there. Victoria, Dos Equis and Negra Modela are probably more popular. Although the people I know who live there drink a lot of local stuff only known in their region, oh and lots of Mezcal.
 
Please keep in mind that when you say 3.2% you are actually talking about a 4%abv beer. 3.2% is in alcohol by weight, which is not typically used in the beer industry, just how the laws were written after the end of prohibition. Since ABW gives a lower number it wasn't as scary for those who wanted to keep prohibition.

That's kind of what I was saying. Although I'd bet Corona is more popular in Mexico than Foster's is in the AU. I just doubt it is far and away the most popular beer in Mexico.

I would guess plenty of people there drink it but it is probably way more popular with tourists/vacationers than people who live there. Victoria, Dos Equis and Negra Modela are probably more popular. Although the people I know who live there drink a lot of local stuff only known in their region, oh and lots of Mezcal.

I've spent a ton of time in Mexico and would say 90% of what is drank by Mexicans is Tecate.
 
I've spent a ton of time in Mexico and would say 90% of what is drank by Mexicans is Tecate.

I've had that stuff, its awful, ****ing terrible actually. I drank Crystal while in Cuba (i think its Mexican?) it was a bloody good drop.
 
So, a lot has happened.

No movement on the 4%abv limit for draft beer.

No movement on dropping the 4%abv limit on beer sold in grocery stores and gas stations.

But hey, we got a 0.05%BAC limit coming and we're turning the Zion Curtain into a moat.

I just want to reiterate the biggest point of this thread and something I think we should all keep in mind when discussing alcohol content in mixed company:

Most beer available commercially is within 1% of our current limit. This is not a huge earth-shattering change. This will almost go unnoticed. We're all grown ups and we can handle the difference between in-state 4%abv Bud Light vs out-of-state 4.2% Bud Light.
 
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