Time to get rid of the embarrassment that is Mike Lee

[babe]

Lee a centrist? L O L. Mike Lee is a grifter, extremist, liar and Trump *** kisser.

You are a person of no consequence, who doesn't think two seconds before blabbling ****. You throw out crap because you're on a team cheering for the other side.

I've been around Mike Lee occasionally. He's a little man with a sort of swagger about being reasonable and informed when he's talking to people. He is neither. He grew up talking Constitution from a sort of Mormon notion of it, but doesn't understand the notion of individual liberty or limited government.

He believes in government. He belongs to government. That makes him essentially a centrist. In the sense that he will not really rock the system we have.

Mormons are historically rooted in early socialism, before the idea was hijacked politically to advance British foreign policy and global fascism.

The Book of Mormon advanced ideals of societal socialism building out of the early Christian ideals of socialism, where people financially supported a Church which took care of the poor, and that was expected to rule the world one day with all that niceness.

In the early 1800s European intellectuals supported by government elites donating to universities, doing business as Imperialists worldwide, created a sort of bogus world view about "Left" and "Right" as a tool to captivate analysts trying to discuss politics. Trying to define anyone by that false schema is just stupid, so quit it already.

Lee believes in authoritarian systems like Church oligarchies and wealthy virtuous benefactors with wishes and smiles to barter for political donations, and he doesn't care a fig about any individual "rights".

Trump is in some important aspects a real American who believes "American" things like freedom, opportunity, and government belonging in some sense to the ordinary people. When he got out on his campaign trail, and wasn't just another CFR schill, he discovered a huge wind behind him of millions of people who are just sick of that kind of government that never does them any real good. He just didn't need "system" support, and he actually shared a lot of common ground with all those people who came to his rallies. He loves the show.

He is not ideological, nor a Party Man. Just an American in the grassroots sort of fashion. With enough financial means to be in the game. Independently in the game.

Lee is not anything like that. Lee can be bought, and the bankers and brass at the Silicon Slopes outlets, and the Mo's at the SLC Committee on Foreign Relations all know it. And have their tentacles in his political position.

Romney is the Republican you can beat. He's already senseless and smelling like he's dead. And any aspiring Republican who's in the Lee fight now is only doing it to make name recognition for a Primary race against Romney. Romney will rely on his money to get around the Primary, but he is just politically a dead fish in Utah. He can't win in the General if the Dems get a live candidate out with PR and media appeal. The R will need all that, and some real financial support to oust Romney in the Primary. But to really do that, the R will need the Trump bandwagon. Burgess Owens is the man.

 

[oneye]

You are a person of no consequence, who doesn't think two seconds before blabbling ****. You throw out crap because you're on a team cheering for the other side.

I've been around Mike Lee occasionally. He's a little man with a sort of swagger about being reasonable and informed when he's talking to people. He is neither. He grew up talking Constitution from a sort of Mormon notion of it, but doesn't understand the notion of individual liberty or limited government.

He believes in government. He belongs to government. That makes him essentially a centrist. In the sense that he will not really rock the system we have.

Mormons are historically rooted in early socialism, before the idea was hijacked politically to advance British foreign policy and global fascism.

The Book of Mormon advanced ideals of societal socialism building out of the early Christian ideals of socialism, where people financially supported a Church which took care of the poor, and that was expected to rule the world one day with all that niceness.

In the early 1800s European intellectuals supported by government elites donating to universities, doing business as Imperialists worldwide, created a sort of bogus world view about "Left" and "Right" as a tool to captivate analysts trying to discuss politics. Trying to define anyone by that false schema is just stupid, so quit it already.

Lee believes in authoritarian systems like Church oligarchies and wealthy virtuous benefactors with wishes and smiles to barter for political donations, and he doesn't care a fig about any individual "rights".

Trump is in some important aspects a real American who believes "American" things like freedom, opportunity, and government belonging in some sense to the ordinary people. When he got out on his campaign trail, and wasn't just another CFR schill, he discovered a huge wind behind him of millions of people who are just sick of that kind of government that never does them any real good. He just didn't need "system" support, and he actually shared a lot of common ground with all those people who came to his rallies. He loves the show.

He is not ideological, nor a Party Man. Just an American in the grassroots sort of fashion. With enough financial means to be in the game. Independently in the game.

Lee is not anything like that. Lee can be bought, and the bankers and brass at the Silicon Slopes outlets, and the Mo's at the SLC Committee on Foreign Relations all know it. And have their tentacles in his political position.

Romney is the Republican you can beat. He's already senseless and smelling like he's dead. And any aspiring Republican who's in the Lee fight now is only doing it to make name recognition for a Primary race against Romney. Romney will rely on his money to get around the Primary, but he is just politically a dead fish in Utah. He can't win in the General if the Dems get a live candidate out with PR and media appeal. The R will need all that, and some real financial support to oust Romney in the Primary. But to really do that, the R will need the Trump bandwagon. Burgess Owens is the man.

Burgess Owens is a pile of **** and so is Mike Lee. End post. Owens may not even survive redistricting let alone be popular enough to become a Senator. Romney has a one point higher approval rating in most recent polls than Lee and is far more popular with the general population. Candidates like Mitt, Cox, and McMullin are far more popular when you include the entirety of the states population than Lee or Owens. It’s why someone like Curtis has the highest approval rating in the state as well. All very moderates, or which Lee and Owens are not. They are both grifters.

 

[bigb]

This is actually very funny.

You have know something about Moroni. The little angel on the temple spire, sure. The trumpet. Did you notice that?

But the Lamanites won that war. Mormon and Moroni were the losers. They had to bury the book to prevent it from just being melted down for jewelry trinkets for squaws.

Mike Lee didn't think much before saying that, for sure.

There are two Moroni’s in The Book of Mormon. I’m not going to put forth the effort to verify this, but I’m like 99% sure Lee was referring to the “other” one, called “Captain Moroni”. He was much earlier and a complete badass. I disapprove of the comparison.


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[babe]

I understand a lot of Dems will do the Primary sidestep to try to get a weaker candidate on the Republican ticket in Utah. But McMullin has no chance in reality. Lee has street cred with the Mo Establishment and the conservative wing. McMullin's appeal to Romney sorts is weak. He will essentially get 1% of the actually Republican vote, and the 40% vote that is the Dem party will split half for a real wild Marxist powerbrokers in the Dem party, and half for the simply uninformed vote that the Dems own.

There are two Moroni’s in The Book of Mormon. I’m not going to put forth the effort to verify this, but I’m like 99% sure Lee was referring to the “other” one, called “Captain Moroni”. He was much earlier and a complete badass. I disapprove of the comparison.


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I forgot about that Captain Moroni. The Title of Liberty and all that. You're right.

But we'd have to get Lee to verify your point. Who knows what he was thinking.

 

[babe]

Burgess Owens is a pile of **** and so is Mike Lee. End post. Owens may not even survive redistricting let alone be popular enough to become a Senator. Romney has a one point higher approval rating in most recent polls than Lee and is far more popular with the general population. Candidates like Mitt, Cox, and McMullin are far more popular when you include the entirety of the states population than Lee or Owens. It’s why someone like Curtis has the highest approval rating in the state as well. All very moderates, or which Lee and Owens are not. They are both grifters.

Your method of analysis of human beings demonstrates a Marxist value system. Whoever disagrees with the Marxist program is otherized and devalued, without any attempt to understand anything.

 

[Hax0rs]

I understand a lot of Dems will do the Primary sidestep to try to get a weaker candidate on the Republican ticket in Utah. But McMullin has no chance in reality. Lee has street cred with the Mo Establishment and the conservative wing. McMullin's appeal to Romney sorts is weak. He will essentially get 1% of the actually Republican vote, and the 40% vote that is the Dem party will split half for a real wild Marxist powerbrokers in the Dem party, and half for the simply uninformed vote that the Dems own.

I don't know if you know, but McMullin actually glows in the dark.

 

[babe]

I don't know if you know, but McMullin actually glows in the dark.

I think he is a nutjob riding the regressive pony that is so deeply stewed in the overeducated lies of the collegiate establishment/globalist chamber of commerce he really believes he's reasonable, normal, socially acceptable, and temple worthy. Well, I'm not his bishop and actually I don't even know if he's a Mo. My file on Romney would read about the same. But I wouldn't be surprised if he were outed either as a kiva enviro democrat or a Lincoln Project fake Nazi with a Tiki torch at a Lee campaign Limo stop in the rain at a Silicon Slopes parking lot wearing nothing but a toga and a sign reading "Nazis For Lee", with about a dozen Salt Lake Trib/Huntsman democrat reporters trying to hype the Mo Nazi theme.

As a chemist, I once worked for an outfit that was inventing florescent dyes. I probably still glow in the dark, and so do most people who ever waved a few of those glow in the dark colored light wands.. And while I can't judge your humor or intellect on baseline signals, I am getting the vibe that you might think glowing in the dark is proof of omniscience and self-validating authority. All I can say is I think most people believe they have such virtues. I think they are Rowland Hall mottos as well as core beliefs of Mo Apostles including Lee.

 

[babe]

I don't know if you know, but McMullin actually glows in the dark.

So perhaps this topic deserves more thought than my ignorant, off-the-cuff imagination exercise posted above. Here's the Dizzy News article on Evan McMullin's campaign launch.

Former independent presidential candidate Evan McMullin sets his sights on Utah Sen. Mike Lee

Evan McMullin, a 2016 independent candidate for president, launched a U.S. Senate campaign Tuesday. McMullin will run as an independent against two-term Utah Republican Sen. Mike Lee.

www.deseret.com

Off hand, I bet Colton will vote for McMullin.

A lot of Mormons don't like Trump's distinctly non-Mormon manners as popularly hyped in the Press. The idea of a billionaire doing hookers and giving a truckload of cash to some sleazy politician like Hillary Clinton or Putin for connected string-pulling to get building permits and inspection approvals just does NOT give the right answers to Temple Worthiness interview questions.

MoMullin just can't do that to Lee, who steadfastly droned a Presidential campaign speech on the Jan 6 Electoral College fake Patriot show deriding Trump for clumsy stupidity and quoting from his private instructions from Chief Justice Roberts about what the Constitution should say. Too easy for Lee to do ads on his factually sterling good Mo cred, his patriotic Constitutional posturing, and his good financial stability/Chamber of Commerce voting record. And yes, that was not a typo "MoMullin", I think that is Evan's Campaign essence.

This is an interesting thing. Evan sidesteps the Republican Primary and will split off a lot of Republicans, giving the Dems a real chance.

Here's Lee's nightmare election result in Utah:

McAdams (yes, he'll run) 38%

Lee 37%

MoMullin 20%

Babe 2%

Babe is the stand-in dummy for the John Birch/Lyndon LaRouche non-party voters who own retreats in the hills above the Juniper belts in every rural Utah county. I have no intention to come down to town in the next five years, so the voters of my class will have to write in other nutjobs for Senate. But someone will rise to claim this vote, for sure.