Tobias Harris




themanknownassting

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Not in mine. Being a wildly overpaid, glorified backup is to me.

The fit is not there. We know it isn't.

Overpaid yes. Under valued absolutely. I agree you don’t pay a backup that much. But saying he doesn’t fit as our back up center is bat **** crazy. Or are u meaning as the starting 4? I agree with that. But u won’t find a better back up center that legitimately wants to be here and is okay with his position as a backup. That’s an amazing asset to have.

And us striking out on free agents and losing Favs isn’t a nightmare to you?
 

NUMBERICA

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Overpaid yes. Under valued absolutely. I agree you don’t pay a backup that much. But saying he doesn’t fit as our back up center is bat **** crazy. Or are u meaning as the starting 4? I agree with that. But u won’t find a better back up center that legitimately wants to be here and is okay with his position as a backup. That’s an amazing asset to have.
Backup 5s are the easiest and cheapest thing to get in the NBA. What he does as a 5 is a complete luxury, what he does as a 4 is create a ceiling for what this offense and our franchise pillars can do.

It's simple resource allocation; paying that amount of money to what is mostly a backup (or a lane-clogger) is foolish.

As a C, I think he'd be an above average starting C in this league. We already have an easily top-5 starting C. If you can get something through trade using that information and cap number, great, otherwise, let's try to actually improve the team instead of lazily settle for what is comfortable and familiar.
 

Stoked

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And if you stretch Korver and Exum then you create >$10 million in cap space. Actual cap space. And you still have the room exception, I believe you have the bi-annual, and vet minimums.

This offseason is the time to go for it. There isn’t another time.

Yup, go all in. Swing and over spend and whatever. Take that leap right now. No more kicking the can down the road.
 

themanknownassting

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Backup 5s are the easiest and cheapest thing to get in the NBA. What he does as a 5 is a complete luxury, what he does as a 4 is create a ceiling for what this offense and our franchise pillars can do.

It's simple resource allocation; paying that amount of money to what is mostly a backup (or a lane-clogger) is foolish.

As a C, I think he'd be an above average starting C in this league. We already have an easily top-5 starting C. If you can get something through trade using that information and cap number, great, otherwise, let's try to actually improve the team instead of lazily settle for what is comfortable and familiar.

Great points! And I agree with the amount is too high. But what I’m saying is the luxury of having a above average 5 behind Gobert in case he God forbid gets hurt.

But yes I agree that what he would be paid is way too much.

My point is if we lose Favs and don’t sign any big FA. That would be a bad thing. I don’t think big FA will come here. And the thought of losing Favs too would set us back even further. But since it’s before free agency. We may have no other choice but to take that risk.
 

Stoked

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There will not be a can to kick. If we end up keeping Favors and our big acquisition is overpaying Terry Rozier I'm going to **** my nuts and cry.

I’d love to keep Favors but not in this scenario.

We need Harris or Kemba. Or a similar level player.
 

NUMBERICA

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I’d love to keep Favors but not in this scenario.

We need Harris or Kemba. Or a similar level player.
Look, if in some bizarre scenario, Favors ends up striking out and the Jazz have some space that's around the MLE (cuz Favors will likely AT LEAST get an MLE offer and we have to acknowledge SOME level of reality), then great, come on back. Happy to have him. $18 million is completely bananas, though.

I'm willing - eager, even - to part with Favors in the pursuit of other players. And for the millionth time, it's not because he's not good or not likable.
 
There are enough whispers to have a thread for the dude. Philly will hopefully be eliminated on Sunday. Jimmy Butler has been great and I'd be shocked if he wasn't offered the max from the Sixers. On the same note, I can't imagine Harris getting the max after a second round exit, and he didn't particularly assert himself in the playoffs or on the star studded team.

But you'd have to think he'd look amazing on the Jazz. And fills a huge need.

So cap experts: Is renouncing Favs and letting Rubio go enough to offer him a 4 year max? He is 26 years old, and fits our timeline and team just about perfectly.

If we have maxed out or cap room and now have Gobert Mitchell and Harris as the foundation pieces, how would you want to fill out the rest of the team?

MLE on a PG seems obvious, but I want to hear thoughts, and how the math works.

Also, no one is opposed to this scenario if it becomes available, right?

Sti!l don't think that team is a top 4 west team but Harris does fit bball wise
 
It's a pipe dream Kemba Walker to Jazz. You and I both have better chance winning the lottery. People need to not think about the
Possibility because it's never going to happen. Getting your hopes up. Tobias Harris a dude who could be in play however.
 

outerspacefan

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Harris is probably a best case scenario for the Jazz. IF the chance is there at some point, Jazz should go for it. In such case, Favors is gone. That's the nature of the beast. You receive something good but you've got to get some pain too.
 

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