Toronto dad denied watching his daughter's swimming lessons in public pool...

[moevillini]

I'm hardly a Muslim hater and frankly don't care one way or the other about most religion as long as it's peaceful.

That being said I'm with the dad on this one and in general can't stand people's religious values being thrust upon society. Keep them in your church/synagogue/mosque/temple.

Some of the issues crop up because where public facilities are involved, and Muslims are a significant part of the tax-base - then I think they do deserve to have some degree of accommodation to their beliefs. Not sure if that's the case in this specific instance, though I do think that Toronto probably does have a fairly large tax-paying Muslim population.

 

[PearlWatson]

I'll admit to not being well versed in Muslim traditions, but I thought that rule only applied to older females anyhow - don't know the actual age though.

I also thought that accommodations could be made by choice of bathing attire, allowing Muslim females to wear suits that provide full coverage.

At any rate, hopefully things will be spelled out more clearly in the future so other non-Muslims aren't blindsided by specific requirements.

The age range for the female only classes was 2-18. So sexually mature and maturing females were present.

The surprising thing to me was that the male only classes were said to be started for the same cultural reasons.

Late last month, Dennis R. Timbrell began a male-only swim course where only men could watch from the sidelines — no moms. The program bred from the same religious/cultural reasons, Jackson said.

I see no problem with the classes no matter the motivation. I would be awesome to have female only swim days @ public pools near me so I wouldn't have to put up with creepy dudes.

 

[Stifle Tower]

I see no problem with the classes no matter the motivation. I would be awesome to have female only swim days @ public pools near me so I wouldn't have to put up with creepy dudes.

Hey, I pay taxes. I should be able to go to the public pool any day I want!

 

[franklin]

This is where hidden camera and youtube come in handy.


J/K, that would be creepy, but the reaction would be all fun and games until someone lost their head.

 

[PearlWatson]

Hey, I pay taxes. I should be able to go to the public pool any day I want!

Except Sundays.

 

[moevillini]

Hey, I pay taxes. I should be able to go to the public pool any day I want!

well yeah, but in most communities the public pools are paid for by community members, and the community sets the standards for their use to reflect the standards of the community.

how's that?

 

[Hitman]

[I will seriously consider moving and retiring in Australia one day, at least their prime minister has spine when it comes to "cultural rights of immigrants".

Quote: ‘IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It.....

For the record, this "quote" was never uttered in any way, shape or form by the current or any former Australian Prime Minister. In fact both major political parties follow a policy referred to as "multiculturalism" which began in the early '70s, when the "White Australia" policy that had existed from Federation (in 1901) was finally dismantled. Multiculturalism basically embraces immigration from any part of the world.

 

[MVP]

For the record, this "quote" was never uttered in any way, shape or form by the current or any former Australian Prime Minister. In fact both major political parties follow a policy referred to as "multiculturalism" which began in the early '70s, when the "White Australia" policy that had existed from Federation (in 1901) was finally dismantled. Multiculturalism basically embraces immigration from any part of the world.

I read somehwere that it was hoax, but want to believe that at least somebody actually thinks that way. Immigration is great but immigrants need to adapt to the country they are moving in not vice versa!
And multiculturalism is a mirage/utopia. It is just against humane nature. It is never going to work. Comunists in USSR had a vision and were telling that in the future there will be no borders, races, nationalities, and no different languages, that everybody will live happily in one planet and speak on language.
Guess what, there is no USSR anymore. No Yugoslavia, no Czechoslovakia. Even Sudan split into two parts due to religion. IT DOES NOT WORK!