You can't show up to something with firearms and expect things to go well. Let actual law enforcement attempt to de-escalate things.
And arguing with individuals with said guns is also putting yourself in a harmful position.
Everyone needs to stop being cowboys.
I agree 100%You can't show up to something with firearms and expect things to go well. Let actual law enforcement attempt to de-escalate things.
And arguing with individuals with said guns is also putting yourself in a harmful position.
Everyone needs to stop being cowboys.
The short answer is, yes, if you think they are a threat. In fact, **** yes, smash their ****ing face if you can, if they are threatening and carrying a gun.
Here is the problem with unbridled gun use (well, a problem, among many): once the bullets start to fly, or someone appears threatening and are holding a gun, how is anyone supposed to know who the "good guy" and who the "bad guy" is. If I saw someone running willy-nilly through the streets carrying a gun, especially if he had already started shooting, I am not going to immediately think "oh, that guy is obviously defending himself against multiple assailants, I better help him out". No, with limited knowledge of the situation you just walked into, the rational thought is "holy ****, this is an active shooter situation as we have seen and heard drilled into us time and time again, that guy it a threat!" And the rational response is to...well, it is to run away, but if you feel you can and need to help defend others, or if you are just a nihilist like me, then maybe you go in swinging hoping to bring the guy down, even if what you have available to swing is just a skateboard.
See, just like the whole problem with "arm-chair QB-ing" the police, that we cannot know what they were facing/thinking/feeling when they were in the difficult situations, the same applies here. We cannot know what these guys were all thinking. My bet is, most thought this kid with the AR was a threat, and they went at it rather than doing the rational thing and running away. Does not mean they deserve to be shot down.
Why?
I want to see someone defend this
I mean in reality there is no reason to, but technically wasn't he breaking a protective order, and that is why the cops were called? So yeah, no real reason to cuff him to the bed, but also he was technically in the middle of a felony when this went down right?
It should be lost on no one that the behavior of the shooter is being promoted by the RNC. They had the couple brandishing guns on blm protesters speak at the convention for goodness sake. So this naive 17yo follows their example, meets a different reaction from a worked up crowd and things end predictably bad.You can't show up to something with firearms and expect things to go well. Let actual law enforcement attempt to de-escalate things.
And arguing with individuals with said guns is also putting yourself in a harmful position.
Everyone needs to stop being cowboys.
From what information is available: prior warrant for his arrest, resisting arrest, most likely breaking a protective order against him, auto theft, and attempting to kidnap his fiance's children. Cooler heads would like to wait for exact details instead of speculating.
you're so cool.That decision would be way beyond poor, and you'd deserve to be killed for taking such a terribly uninformed actions.
After watching the currently available footage, it is clear and evident that the first shooting was justified, the deceased got what he deserved so to speak. Rittenhouse may currently be charged for it but he will walk.
I mean in reality there is no reason to, but technically wasn't he breaking a protective order, and that is why the cops were called? So yeah, no real reason to cuff him to the bed, but also he was technically in the middle of a felony when this went down right?
Can you rewrite that? I've read it 5 times and am not sure what you are saying. The skateboard doesn't count for what? You can just hit people with skateboards if they are carrying guns?
1. Group of people chasing the 17 year old. No shots have been fired yet.
I don't think he was looting but there's video of him with a group confrontin all the dudes with guns and yelling/swearing at them.
I agree with you. I just don't think it was the brightest idea to attack them.Yeah, how outrageous, how morally twisted, to yell and swear at right wing militia vigilantes wielding guns. What is the world coming to....