Tough Day To Be In Law Enforcement

[gandalfe]

7T

I miss my OnePlus. I got a Pixel when it was time to change last year, and I kind of regret it. I'll probably get a OnePlus again next time.

 

[Archie Moses]

I get it. You advise trans people to represent themselves in a manner they feel is inauthentic and reveal deeply personal information to complete strangers. You don't think this is victim-blaming.

I advise all people to represent who they are sexually on dating sites.

The idea of you taking this as victim blaming is as expected coming from you.

How dare I!

 

[Archie Moses]

Detroit....

What do people expect to happen?

I don't know the context of what happened before. From what I saw in the video, if you're a jackass bully that surrounds and intimidates people during your protest, you're the instigator and the problem.

 

[Archie Moses]

I would never say I’m a better man than you. I also have noticed we share some of the same interests, such as ufology, visiting petroglyph sites in Utah, probably other stuff. And you’re a good man, I have no reason to think otherwise. I’m just leary of focusing on Antifa in the recent protest movement. In general, I wish there were more emphasis on the goals advocated by the overwhelmingly peaceful protests in the United States, as well as the inspiring sight of seeing movements for racial and social justice appearing around the world in direct response to what is happening here. That is heartening to me. Historical movements can take a very long time to play out, or to illuminate what they were actually all about. That is not always easy to perceive in the early stages. We are one species, inhabiting one fragile planet. I do believe one day we will all of us realize that, and the world will be a far better place. I don’t think it will be in my lifetime, and I suspect we have not even begun to see the pain involved in arriving in that better place. But, I believe we are spiritual beings on a human journey, which is how near death survivor Dannion Brinkley once put it, and I have many good reasons to embrace that concept. There is a purpose to our existence, and I will not let unenlightened people dissuade me from that belief. Has not stopped me from pointing out right wing extremism though, so maybe I’m more of a hypocrite than I care to admit.

This is a great post, man. You don't have to say or think you're a better man, you are. I admire you.

 

[Gameface]

I advise all people to represent who they are sexually on dating sites.

The idea of you taking this as victim blaming is as expected coming from you.

How dare I!

I agree with you.

I think we all get to make our own decisions about the relationships we enter. This very fantastic notion One Brow is expressing about how a transgender female is a female and should be able to simply exist as a female starts to fall apart in the context of a romantic relationship*. A transgender female looking for a relationship with a cisgender male should filter their dating pool for cisgender males interested in the actual relationship they will be entering.

I also agree that there are very real safety concerns in hiding transgender status from cisgender males. That's not victim blaming in my opinion, that's reality facing transgender females when dealing with potentially violent men. Ask cisgender females about dating. It's ****ing scary for them a lot of the time. They don't know when they might be assaulted and far far too many of them are. That's the reality of dealing with cisgender males. Too many of them are ****ing neanderthals. Don't encourage transgender females to see if the cisgender male "clocks" them. That's a game of life and death that lies squarely on the shoulders of our culture and the way cisgender males are socially expected to behave.

Change the culture before you encourage transgender females to put their lives at risk for these principles. It's not their fault, it's the culture.

*the reality of a transgender female being a female is given great strength and support when she finds a partner that she desires who equally desires her. That can be an amazing affirmation and extremely valuable support for her. That will almost always happen when she finds a partner who is fully aware of who she is and what she needs in the relationship.

Good relationships are built on honesty and trust.

 

[gandalfe]

I agree with you.

I think we all get to make our own decisions about the relationships we enter. This very fantastic notion One Brow is expressing about how a transgender female is a female and should be able to simply exist as a female starts to fall apart in the context of a romantic relationship*. A transgender female looking for a relationship with a cisgender male should filter their dating pool for cisgender males interested in the actual relationship they will be entering.

I also agree that there are very real safety concerns in hiding transgender status from cisgender males. That's not victim blaming in my opinion, that's reality facing transgender females when dealing with potentially violent men. Ask cisgender females about dating. It's ****ing scary for them a lot of the time. They don't know when they might be assaulted and far far too many of them are. That's the reality of dealing with cisgender males. Too many of them are ****ing neanderthals. Don't encourage transgender females to see if the cisgender male "clocks" them. That's a game of life and death that lies squarely on the shoulders of our culture and the way cisgender males are socially expected to behave.

Change the culture before you encourage transgender females to put their lives at risk for these principles. It's not their fault, it's the culture.

*the reality of a transgender female being a female is given great strength and support when she finds a partner that she desires who equally desires her. That can be an amazing affirmation and extremely valuable support for her. That will almost always happen when she finds a partner who is fully aware of who she is and what she needs in the relationship.

Good relationships are built on honesty and trust.

Here's the question, to which I don't know the answer: Is it more dangerous for a trans-woman to be open about it from the beginning, thereby possibly letting guys who want to harass/assault a trans person know who they are from the start, or save it for a date or two, thereby letting herself in for the anger of someone who thinks they've been fooled? There's not an easy answer, although there may be some stats about it, but there are certainly going to be anecdotal data that contradicts that.

And, while we're on the subject: Screw JK Rowling.

 

[fishonjazz]

I agree with you.

I think we all get to make our own decisions about the relationships we enter. This very fantastic notion One Brow is expressing about how a transgender female is a female and should be able to simply exist as a female starts to fall apart in the context of a romantic relationship*. A transgender female looking for a relationship with a cisgender male should filter their dating pool for cisgender males interested in the actual relationship they will be entering.

I also agree that there are very real safety concerns in hiding transgender status from cisgender males. That's not victim blaming in my opinion, that's reality facing transgender females when dealing with potentially violent men. Ask cisgender females about dating. It's ****ing scary for them a lot of the time. They don't know when they might be assaulted and far far too many of them are. That's the reality of dealing with cisgender males. Too many of them are ****ing neanderthals. Don't encourage transgender females to see if the cisgender male "clocks" them. That's a game of life and death that lies squarely on the shoulders of our culture and the way cisgender males are socially expected to behave.

Change the culture before you encourage transgender females to put their lives at risk for these principles. It's not their fault, it's the culture.

*the reality of a transgender female being a female is given great strength and support when she finds a partner that she desires who equally desires her. That can be an amazing affirmation and extremely valuable support for her. That will almost always happen when she finds a partner who is fully aware of who she is and what she needs in the relationship.

Good relationships are built on honesty and trust.

Great post bro

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[fishonjazz]

Here's the question, to which I don't know the answer: Is it more dangerous for a trans-woman to be open about it from the beginning, thereby possibly letting guys who want to harass/assault a trans person know who they are from the start, or save it for a date or two, thereby letting herself in for the anger of someone who thinks they've been fooled? There's not an easy answer, although there may be some stats about it, but there are certainly going to be anecdotal data that contradicts that.

And, while we're on the subject: Screw JK Rowling.

I think it's an easy answer. It's more dangerous to wait a few dates in.

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[Red]

This is a great post, man. You don't have to say or think you're a better man, you are. I admire you.

Don’t make me blush, lol. But thanks. Wishing you and all my friends here a great Independence Day. Stay safe!

 

[Red]

What do people expect to happen?

I don't know the context of what happened before. From what I saw in the video, if you're a jackass bully that surrounds and intimidates people during your protest, you're the instigator and the problem.

I’m not knowledgeable about the context either. But, yeah, cops are human, and nobody enjoys being taunted and taunted. And the video does show taunting. I don’t think there were serious injuries involved, but the cop needed to maintain more discipline than that. Admittedly, easier said than done at times. Given weeks of heated encounters, **** does happen.

 

[One Brow]

While I'm at it...

The ideology behind defining/shaming/blaming people's past is a mob mentality and not helpful imo. It's my whole point in the James Gunn thread. You called me a victim blamer and brought up a thread from 10 years ago. Although I didn't have an outrageous opinion I think differently today because I've grown.

Honest questions, dude. Are people defined by their past? Should their past define them? And lastly, if people change/grow/evolve should we judge their character today by their past?

I also brought up a thread from last year. People change, grow, and evolve from who they were. We always carry that past person inside of us, and it's a constant fight to keep buried what we want to bury of them.

@One Brow you don't think I'm "far right" and yet make offensive, silly and wrong assumptions as if I'm far right.

That assumption had little to do with how far right you aren't.

I advise all people to represent who they are sexually on dating sites.

Yet, you expect women to say they are not really women, which is not representing who they are, but is not the part that is victim-blaming.

Further, you make that advice because you seem to believe that they will encounter violence otherwise, which is the part that is victim-blaming.

 

[One Brow]

I don't know the context of what happened before. From what I saw in the video, if you're a jackass bully that surrounds and intimidates people during your protest, you're the instigator and the problem.

As opposed to a jackass bully that dives a police car into a protest in the first place?