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Just keep Vanderbilt. See what we got. He has some interesting abilities.
I'm more interested in the abilities of the guy we draft top 4 next year. Currently this team is too good. Creating a bigger hole at center instead of reinforcing our weakest position signals to me that we don't have the stomach to be a 20 win team and will be a 30 win team that crosses our fingers and prays to the ping pong ball gods.
 

Saint Cy of JFC

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I'm more interested in the abilities of the guy we draft top 4 next year. Currently this team is too good. Creating a bigger hole at center instead of reinforcing our weakest position signals to me that we don't have the stomach to be a 20 win team and will be a 30 win team that crosses our fingers and prays to the ping pong ball gods.
We arent that good and you can always do things in season to make your team worse by playing certain players more and keep minutes more even across all players.
 

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Because why trade a 23 year old who is already better than 75% of outcomes that the (late) pick would be?
Because it helps you get a top 5 pick, gives us $7M more in cap space next year than the move we did, and if you hit on that 25% chance you get 7 years of team control and it has a higher ceiling.

Vando gonna magically learn how to shoot? What skills is he going to develop in his 20s to improve?

He's a nice player on a nice value deal. He's also got some limitations that will hurt his ceiling as a player quite a bit.
 

Saint Cy of JFC

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Will Hardy got a 5 year deal for a reason. He isnt fighting for his job in year 1.

I think we are going to see vets getting a lot of rest and we are going to see a lot of guys who average like 22 minutes per game. You dont need to trade promising young players to make your team worse. Yall have lost your minds.
 

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We arent that good and you can always do things in season to make your team worse by playing certain players more and keep minutes more even across all players.
Yeah no ****... other tanking teams will do that too... and they have a headstart because they have fewer quality players.

The chances we get 2 years down the road and are like "thank god we kept Vando... he was completely irreplaceable" are low.
 

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Vanderbilt is an elite rebounder who can potentially guard 1-5. He pairs well next to stretch big men which is becoming a bigger portion of the NBA. He's a very valuable and unique piece. He isnt a throwaway to make your team 2 games worse.
If he is that valuable having him wins you more than 2 games. Having Vando+KO vs. Doke/Kessler/Zeller/Saric is easily a 5 win swing... and you get a pick with it.... and $7M+ more cap space.

Hardy ain't gonna be coaching to throw games.
 


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