Trade Confirmed: Jazz get jack for Bogey

[Pinhead]

I actually understand this one more than the THT deal. KO is one of Danny's guys so I think he thinks much more of him than any of us or other teams would. We saved money in this deal and have a minimal obligation next year... THT is surely opting in next year... he's not good. We also did that trade at a really weird time.

THT at least fit the youth movement. I doubt he turns out well, but we were still going to lack good youth at the guard spots if we traded with the Knicks. So why not give him a lot of burn and see if it doesn’t work out.

This trade blocks the youth movement of two young centers at the cost of our greatest remaining asset.

If it got us under the luxury tax I’d understand… but we were already under it. If KO was under 25 this could make sense too.

 

[fishonjazz]

No picks and one extra player added to the roster. Now we have to cut SEVERAL players to finalize the 15 man roster. The rotation chart next year is gonna be a ***********.

Then things are going to plan.
Tank note.


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[seattlejazzfan]

I said its a big Ainge move... I think Ryan's stink is all over it though.

yeah, i was confused by that part of your post. you're saying it's both. gotcha.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

Lakers might want conley. They would need a pg if they trade westbrook right?
And we would need a big salary like conleys to try to match right?


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Didn’t they just sign Dennis Schröder? So at pg they have that Reeves, and Pat Bev as well. That’s three descent pgs that need playing time, unless the jazz need a small white pg to go with all those white stuff centers they got.

 

[Ineptimusprime]

If there were ever any doubt, the full on “deep tank” is upon us. This makes that very clear.

 

[Swuul]

I'm not even sure it makes us worse... the drop off from Bogey to Lauri/Simone may not be as big as the drop off between Kessler/Doke and KO.

This is not a tank move imo. This hurts the tank.

I agree. Going by the performance this summer in EuroBasket and the World Cup qualifiers, Bogey was clearly the inferior player compared to Lauri/Simone.
This trade seems to clear up the situation who will be the first choices for the 3 and 4 positions (Lauri and Simone are pretty much interchangeable on them) while Olnyk at center should be a very good fit with both of them.

 

[fishonjazz]

THT at least fit the youth movement. I doubt he turns out well, but we were still going to lack good youth at the guard spots if we traded with the Knicks. So why not give him a lot of burn and see if it doesn’t work out.

This trade blocks the youth movement of two young centers at the cost of our greatest remaining asset.

If it got us under the luxury tax I’d understand… but we were already under it. If KO was under 25 this could make sense too.

Great post.
This is a real head scratcher


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[Saint Cy of JFC]

THT at least fit the youth movement. I doubt he turns out well, but we were still going to lack good youth at the guard spots if we traded with the Knicks. So why not give him a lot of burn and see if it doesn’t work out.

This trade blocks the youth movement of two young centers at the cost of our greatest remaining asset.

If it got us under the luxury tax I’d understand… but we were already under it. If KO was under 25 this could make sense too.

Our young centers are *** lmao. If they are good enough they will find a way. KO isnt blocking anything if they have actual talent.

 

[fishonjazz]

Our young centers are *** lmao. If they are good enough they will find a way. KO isnt blocking anything if they have actual talent.

If our young center are **** then they should be getting all the minutes next season.
Tank note


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[Elizah Huge]

Next year maybe. He's non guaranteed next year.

He actually has 3M guaranteed next year.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

@Handlogten's Heros is this a down payment?

No... I mean yes... Ryan now frees up some cash to make a down payment on that vacation home in Destin.

Let me put my super deep conspiracy theory cap on... hold on... something is coming in....

This was a trade to make a little noise to pull some of the news breakers off of the Udoka news.

Sorry its all I could muster.

 

[Jazzmix]

WTF? It's a charity from our part. Also feel sorry for Bogey for going to Detroit, he deserves to be on a contender.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I guess the Jazz really didnt want Landry Shamet's ****** deal like I said.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

He actually has 3M guaranteed next year.

Right... largely non guaranteed but yeah... not waiving him this year.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

WTF? It's a charity from our part. Also feel sorry for Bogey for going to Detroit, he deserves to be on a contender.

Detroit might flip him at the deadline for a 1st if they arent in playoff contention.

 

[Elizah Huge]

I guess the Jazz really didnt want Landry Shamet's ****** deal like I said.

We wanted THT’s **** deal though which is worse? Lmao

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I guess the Jazz really didnt want Landry Shamet's ****** deal like I said.

I'm guessing business in Phoenix is hard right now... I know they said they are active and all that but signing on for more tax would be hard given their ownership disruption.

Also, Shamet's deal >>> THT's deal.

 

[sip]

I guess the Jazz really didnt want Landry Shamet's ****** deal like I said.

You mean his expiring contract.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

We wanted THT’s **** deal though which is worse? Lmao

Difference is THT has upside potential and Shamet does not.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Difference is THT has upside potential and Shamet does not.

Oh… right. THT has upside and if he breaks out he could opt out. Sounds like a great deal.