It's W/E overall though. Obviously Ryan Smith didnt want this tank thing to happen but DA/JZ talked him into pursuing it. He's going to get compensated by the team being more affordable and having trades like these. It's fair, I guess.
Andy Larsen said there were offers with 1st round picks, but there was too much salary coming back.
Yeah, 3 picks would have done it.One of them was Duncan Robinson and likely their 2023 1st. If it was their 27/28/29 1st I’d bet we would have done that.
Yeah, 3 picks would have done it.
I dont think any single individual one would have done it though.
It's good of you to be concerned about the Smith's.Again... this trade kinda shows we really can't read the room with our cap space. If you had to take on money... even a Duncan Robinson type.... do it to get the pick. Our cap space is not that valuable and lots of bad teams will have space and be competing for whatever FA are available. Salary dump deals really haven't been available.
Also, if you are going to do ****** offers because you are locked into a guy you love... go ahead and squeeze a little. If we told Detroit we will do it but need two second round picks or they can take Gay's salary are they doing the deal still? Probably... if they walk... tell em you will call em later.
One more thing. I bet you they'd have done KO for JC straight up. They have a huge logjam at center... why wouldn't we do that? Well follow the money. Ryan got a little ways away from the tax and banked $7M... thank god he can now feed his family.
Next year is a OK free agent class without the top top end talent. THe following year is the GOAT class. I do think Utah can maybe cleanup if they put their eggs in that basket and get some solid overall players on good deals.It's good of you to be concerned about the Smith's.
I don't think we are trying to maintain cap space next year for salary dumps. From everything we are hearing it sounds like we legit think we can get some free agents next year that will put us in to contention.
Just by selling off the stars and Royce and not competing he saved like $30M+It's W/E overall though. Obviously Ryan Smith didnt want this tank thing to happen but DA/JZ talked him into pursuing it. He's going to get compensated by the team being more affordable and having trades like these. It's fair, I guess.
Sure, but what's the plan to get All Star level talent? (Could be misinterpreting your post)Next year is a OK free agent class without the top top end talent. THe following year is the GOAT class. I do think Utah can maybe cleanup if they put their eggs in that basket and get some solid overall players on good deals.
It's good of you to be concerned about the Smith's.
I don't think we are trying to maintain cap space next year for salary dumps. From everything we are hearing it sounds like we legit think we can get some free agents next year that will put us in to contention.
Again... they are misreading the market on their cap space. The cap is going to the moon... those deals signed in two years will be like 50% more than the deals signed last offseason or this offseason. Also when the cap rises everyone has space which opens up the best destinations. Sure... sounds like a great plan... hunt for deals in the frothiest market there will be... maybe we can overpay Mozgov or Deng?!?!?!?!?Next year is a OK free agent class without the top top end talent. THe following year is the GOAT class. I do think Utah can maybe cleanup if they put their eggs in that basket and get some solid overall players on good deals.
Absolutely agree. This has Smith on his heals and a lot of season ticket holders are not as thrilled with tanking as most on this board.It's W/E overall though. Obviously Ryan Smith didnt want this tank thing to happen but DA/JZ talked him into pursuing it. He's going to get compensated by the team being more affordable and having trades like these. It's fair, I guess.
THis upcoming year in the draft. You hope one of Lauri/Sexton can fault themselves into being an All-Star level player. You hope you can sign a borderline all-star guy in UFA that could elevate himself to an all-star in the right situation. Or you trade the future picks for an all-star if one you like becomes available.Sure, but what's the plan to get All Star level talent? (Could be misinterpreting your post)
Season tickets are already sold though... even in the Corbin years we had great attendance. This era is more exciting because the young players we have. Ryan is going to end up getting a windfall of cash when the new TV deal comes. If they add two expansion teams he's looking at another huge windfall of cash... buy in could be like $2B per team... so 3-4B split between 30 owners.Absolutely agree. This has Smith on his heals and a lot of season ticket holders are not as thrilled with tanking as most on this board.
Just answering the question on what Tony said.Yeah, I’m sure Bogey was a ****en cancer.
No one said he is crying poor but he knows there are plenty of captive customers who are not happy and want out. I know this from firsthand experience dealing with a season ticket rep. Smith blew it on a rebrand and now has a product that lots of loyal fans dont care about. It will be interesting to see what happens next year with ticket prices and season ticket renewals.Season tickets are already sold though... even in the Corbin years we had great attendance. This era is more exciting because the young players we have. Ryan is going to end up getting a windfall of cash when the new TV deal comes. If they add two expansion teams he's looking at another huge windfall of cash... buy in could be like $2B per team... so 3-4B split between 30 owners.
Yet he out here saving 6-7M cuz he gots to sell moar tikkkets. Ryan can't be out here crying poor.
No one said he is crying poor but he knows there are plenty of captive customers who are not happy and want out. I know this from firsthand experience dealing with a season ticket rep. Smith blew it on a rebrand and now has a product that lots of loyal fans dont care about. It will be interesting to see what happens next year with ticket prices and season ticket renewals.
Trading Bogdanovic for nothing is the kind of move you make when your only sample size of seeing this team is from December 2021 through the playoffs.
This is the kind of thing that happens when the player is over 30 ,wants a bus ticket out immediately ,and makes it known to everyone, he wants out. The fact Ainge was only able to get a player he drafted back in Boston, to agree to play for his tanking team, and agree to not cause a fuss about being traded there, because he would have a potential starting job,should not be surprising.Trading Bogdanovic for nothing is the kind of move you make when your only sample size of seeing this team is from December 2021 through the playoffs.