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gomretat said:
Nope. Because the history of managing the tax in a very careful is very clear, not only for us both for most NBA teams. There is a ton of money spent to make sure the 100's of millions are managed well and it is evident. The fact that unforeseen opportunities arise that cause you to give up a 2nd rounder or pay more than you want is part of the business. IMO, suggesting that the cap is not paid attention to managed sloppily could not possibly be more naive and there is no way the Millers or Mr Smith would let that happen. It is arm chair quarterbacking with no clue of what is really going on.
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Yes... many teams that are careful planners end up barely in the tax. It happens all the time.

Go look at the cap maneuvering Miami has done over the years to duck the tax and tell me we are all over this ****.

When Mr. Smith is staring at a $50M+ tax bill to retain Mike this offseason and an even bigger bill the year after because of the repeater tax we will see how naïve I was. When we salary dump Bojan or JC or Favs this offseason or watch Mike leave because we can't make the finances work, please make sure to check back in then.

I have called my shot before and been proven right. Not saying DL is a bad GM but he has either not negotiated hard enough or misread the market/league before. He's had some home runs too.
 
Bodhi said:
This. FOH if you think Favs was in a strong negotiating position with this. NO ONE was going to pay him that much with those years. Sloppy FO consistently.
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Well, it's all relative. If you thought Ed Davis was a $5M salary slot and Tony Bradley was a $3M salary slot, then giving Favors $9M was a fair deal. Plus, DL likes his players to feel wanted and happy. You saw what happened last year with Jeff Green. Guy thought he wasn't being paid fairly and didn't bother the run the floor consistently. Jazz will pay a little extra for a cultural fit.
 
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gomretat said:
Nope. Because the history of managing the tax in a very careful is very clear, not only for us both for most NBA teams. There is a ton of money spent to make sure the 100's of millions are managed well and it is evident. The fact that unforeseen opportunities arise that cause you to give up a 2nd rounder or pay more than you want is part of the business. IMO, suggesting that the cap is not paid attention to managed sloppily could not possibly be more naive and there is no way the Millers or Mr Smith would let that happen. It is arm chair quarterbacking with no clue of what is really going on.
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Man... I am shocked they did it again... even with a **** ton of movement and additions they somehow did it again.

This is what careful cap management looks like.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
The Matt Thomas deal feels like part of a contingency plan if we have to let go of JC or Mike because of budget cuts... not that he is a replacement but he'd be part of the solution.
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Niang might get a significant raise this off-season. Someone like Hughes or Thomas may need to step in at the wing.
 
Jazz need to go all in on Lamarus Aldridge and dump Lloyd Christmas.

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Ferguson_Mellochill said:
Yeah, that and living in Miami.
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They make moves like this every year with regard to the cap and always figure out a way to be under. Many of these moves have nothing to do with being in Miami and everything to do with planning and math.

If you want to pay the tax that is fine... it makes no sense to start the repeater tax clock and dip your toes barely into the tax.
 
Boston gave away a starter to narrowly avoid the tax... not saying that is smart... just saying that is how crippling the repeater tax can be.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
They make moves like this every year with regard to the cap and always figure out a way to be under. Many of these moves have nothing to do with being in Miami and everything to do with planning and math.

If you want to pay the tax that is fine... it makes no sense to start the repeater tax clock and dip your toes barely into the tax.
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Jimmy Butler signed with the Heat because it's Miami.
Victor Oladipo wants to sign with the Heat because it's Miami, and that cooled his trade market.
The Heat are a well-run organization to be sure, but they're playing with a better hand than the Jazz.

Mike Conley is overpaid, but overpaying for some players is how a team like the Jazz competes.
 
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