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Brsn said:
I might be wrong about this. But he reminds me more of a poor man's CJ McCollum. They play similar but CJ's shot looks better and CJ also has nice crossovers to break away from defenders. I think there's a lot of potential here.
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The delineation between a poor man's CJ or JC is minute. They dudes who take shots they don't make without offering much else.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
The delineation between a poor man's CJ or JC is minute. They dudes who take shots they don't make without offering much else.
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Well he looks like a better defender than JC and he also looks willing to pass. I think both of those things make us better. Because both of those things JC isn't willing to do.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Save us?

Save Ryan Smith*.

I get saying "us" when it comes to like winning/losing, but I refuse to use that **** when it comes to saving a billionaire some pocket change.
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You know what... you are correct... my bad. This saves Ryan some money... it benefits us in no way shape or form. Please everyone don't try to sell us on the BS of if Ryan pays that much tax he has to sell the team or that money is needed to "invest in the program" a DL fav.

Ryan's favorite jazz player is "Cash Considerations".
 
This is kind of weird if it’s the only deal, but we got tax savings and a young prospect out of it. Joe will re-sign this summer, Hughes was never it, and two seconds are two seconds. We really didn’t give up anything of much value here.

This isn’t a contender move, which makes me think it’s a prelude to something else.
 
It's totally understandable if someone likes Hughes more than NAW but if you're honest with yourself both players are purely potential and both players are far more likely to miss more than hit.

What we know is Joe is a contract at this point so moving him was just saving money. Hughes was not getting many minutes, he had a couple of nice games and a couple of really poor showings but very limited chances to show himself.

NAW is the same draft as Hughes and has played a ton more of minutes, albeit on a not very good team. Maybe NAW will fit better in Utah than he did in NO or maybe he quickly finds himself at the end of the bench time will tell.

At the end of the day Jazz lost Hughes a 2nd round pick 2yrs ago and two 2nd round picks for NAW who was a 1st round overall 17th pick, who has got minutes and last year showed he might be able to play in this league only to regress this year but the NOP season overall has been a similar regression and disappointing. Oh yeah and Hernangomez who was needed to make salaries match.
 
//r00t 4 Jazz said:
It's totally understandable if someone likes Hughes more than NAW but if you're honest with yourself both players are purely potential and both players are far more likely to miss more than hit.

What we know is Joe is a contract at this point so moving him was just saving money. Hughes was not getting many minutes, he had a couple of nice games and a couple of really poor showings but very limited chances to show himself.

NAW is the same draft as Hughes and has played a ton more of minutes, albeit on a not very good team. Maybe NAW will fit better in Utah than he did in NO or maybe he quickly finds himself at the end of the bench time will tell.

At the end of the day Jazz lost Hughes a 2nd round pick 2yrs ago and two 2nd round picks for NAW who was a 1st round overall 17th pick, who has got minutes and last year showed he might be able to play in this league only to regress this year but the NOP season overall has been a similar regression and disappointing. Oh yeah and Hernangomez who was needed to make salaries match.
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Nah, Hughes was the draft after NAW.
 
I think everyone is getting a little too negative on one deal without seeing the follow-up. There are definitely a number of deals out there that I'm confident we could make that allow us more flexibility and the chance to pick up interesting pieces and assets. Here's one I put together:

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I'd ask for three second rounders in this deal. It would help us restock the cupboards and we could use those second rounders to help avoid the tax in the future. We get back an interesting young prospect as well as someone who knows the system and won't need much time to get acclimated. This gives us tons of flexibility moving forward and a lot of money that we could then spend on getting multiple overpriced, mid-tier guys.
 
I have $5 for the first person to post the inevitable TJ tweet about how they didn't find any more deals out there that would improve the team and now they're going to be aggressively scanning the buyout market.
 
infection said:
I have $5 for the first person to post the inevitable TJ tweet about how they didn't find any more deals out there that would improve the team and now they're going to be aggressively scanning the buyout market.
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This is Ainge in charge now not that loser DL
 
NAW averages 12.8 ppg - THIS SEASON.

That's not something that Joe Ingles + Elijah Hughes were doing. I think this is a much better trade than many seem to think it is.
 
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