Trade deadline discussion

[jom2003]

The thing that pops is that he's a top-level athlete with good touch and end-to-end speed. On a spaced floor with Conley, Mitchell and whoever, he's going to fly to the rim. Plus he can just shoot over most defenders. He wants to get paid, but I think he'll be worth it. He's a legit 2nd option next to Mitchell. He'll be better when he's on a better team (similar to DeRozan). Plus, he's a legit help-side defender. He might even be able to sneak a few minutes a the 5.

 

[LogGrad98]

 

[Cool Runnings]

Here’s one from left field, not even sure if he is available, but Dillon Brooks would be a good get for the Jazz. Definitely an upgrade on Royce at the SF position. Provides an offensive and defensive presence and a bit of a hard edge this team lacks. Again probably unlikely but may be worth the question as the Grizzlies seem to have a few of his type.

 

[KqWIN]

You can describe it in numerous different ways that have different angles on the same concept. I say half-dozen and you’re insistent on “well, no, actually it’s 6. Lol. You can say it’s 6 but it’s not half dozen.”

Quin is rigid. Why is Quin rigid? Because he thinks what he has works more than it does. He thinks our 75th percentile performance is our 50th percentile.

But I’ll call it six, if you want me to.

ETA: expecting next response to be “lol I don’t think it’s six at all, it’s definitely not six. It’s 3+3.”

I have no problem with you calling it six. I would agree. Never took issue with saying that Quin has the wrong strategy. You said he was rigid because he built his strategy on outliers. Makes not sense. It’s like saying Quin thinks there’s actually seven eggs because he relies on math and that’s why it’s problematic to use math.

It’s the same thing as people saying we don’t give it to Gobert down low because of analytics. You’re not wrong that it’s bad to not pas the ball to Gobert for an easy dunk. But you’ve got to stop associating everything bad with being “analytical”. If we were being analytical, we’d pass the ball to Gobert.

 

[KqWIN]

Here’s one from left field, not even sure if he is available, but Dillon Brooks would be a good get for the Jazz. Definitely an upgrade on Royce at the SF position. Provides an offensive and defensive presence and a bit of a hard edge this team lacks. Again probably unlikely but may be worth the question as the Grizzlies seem to have a few of his type.

Brooks is bad on both ends. But he is the best fake good player in the league.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Yuta Watanabe has been struggling lately since losing minutes when the Raptors got fully healthy.

Still think he'd be a huge addition to the team.

 

[infection]

I have no problem with you calling it six. I would agree. Never took issue with saying that Quin has the wrong strategy. You said he was rigid because he built his strategy on outliers. Makes not sense. It’s like saying Quin thinks there’s actually seven eggs because he relies on math and that’s why it’s problematic to use math.

It’s the same thing as people saying we don’t give it to Gobert down low because of analytics. You’re not wrong that it’s bad to not pas the ball to Gobert for an easy dunk. But you’ve got to stop associating everything bad with being “analytical”. If we were being analytical, we’d pass the ball to Gobert.

The problem is, is that I didn’t say any of this. Log summarized it well. Quin doesn’t think he’s relying on exceptions, and he doesn’t believe his emphasis is to wait for an exception. He feels he’s set up the rule, and we need to continue to put the right variables in to prove the rule, and when we’ve done that with exactness, the rule is the answer and not an exception.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

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Jazz do this deal to save money and get off Clarkson. Raptors would throw in some 2nd round picks. Actually think Clarkson would fit their team as they have an offensively challenged bench unit.

Can the Jazz restore Dragic for one last playoff run? I admittedly know nothing of his situation this year. Just saw he is out for personal reasons.

 

[infection]

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Jazz do this deal to save money and get off Clarkson. Raptors would throw in some 2nd round picks. Actually think Clarkson would fit their team as they have an offensively challenged bench unit.

Can the Jazz restore Dragic for one last playoff run? I admittedly know nothing of his situation this year. Just saw he is out for personal reasons.

Dragic would be a good pickup to replace Ingles. I think we’ll need another ball handler in the playoffs. He’s been working out at Heat facilities and attending Heat games, though. I think it was HH who said he’s waiting to get bought out and sign in Dallas. I’d do this trade, though.

 

[campaignist]

Just going on record saying I'm not expecting anything to happen, at least nothing major. Ainge's record says he won't do something unless it's not just a win, but a loss for the other team.

 

[KqWIN]

The problem is, is that I didn’t say any of this. Log summarized it well. Quin doesn’t think he’s relying on exceptions, and he doesn’t believe his emphasis is to wait for an exception. He feels he’s set up the rule, and we need to continue to put the right variables in to prove the rule, and when we’ve done that with exactness, the rule is the answer and not an exception.

You said that Quin's strategy is based on outlier theory multiple times. When you say it multiple times, I believe that you mean it. Like I've said, I have no disagreement if you think Quin is miscalculating. Nobody has said that Quin is making the right decision by being so rigid. I also understand the concept that Quin doesn't believe this is true and because he is wrong it's true in effect. It is obvious that the worse your strategy is, the more you are reliant on higher percentile outcomes. But I just can't the ongoing implication that everything bad is related to an overreliance on "analytics". When in fact, better analytics would push you to the conclusion you would want....which is for Quin to change his ways.

 

[KqWIN]

Jerami Grant and Harrison Barnes are not perfect, but they are recognizable enough names for Danny Ainge to fake like he almost got them. The most likely outcome is not move, the second most likely move is a move to save money. I think a move with the intention to improve this team in a significant way is a distant possibility. If the Jazz were ready to deal and make moves, they would have gotten the POR package for themselves.