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Source: ESPN INSIDER

Derrick Favors is ranked 8th most likely to break out next year.

8. Derrick Favors

Improvement percentage: 6.7 | Age: 23

Favors' improvement as a pro has been gradual, but his recent play suggests he's ready to jump to a higher plateau. And in good news for Jazz fans, Utah has been less terrible lately when Favors and Enes Kanter share the floor.




Best case scenario....Kanter is Favors Robin, yet so many want to anoint Kanter the future of our front court. Doe's dont know basketball.
 
Trade Favors, keep Kanter, change the franchise name back to Utah Stars and then re-start the ABA because Jazz will give up 140 points a game with Kanter replacing Favors at the 5
 
I can't figure out why people are high on Favors.

I was strung out on Favors the last two years, but this season brought me back to earth. He is still the same kid with a world of potential but who's fine with coasting unless his opponent has a name. If he ever matures enough to the point that he prepares for and cares about every game, he'll be incredible. We'll be incredible. But given his age, minutes logged, consistent role, etc., we are fastly approaching the career of unmet potential. I think next year will tell us all we need to know about him. I'm still hopeful and believing, but would be lying if I said I wasn't concerned.

If Kanter is still wildly inconsistent after his 5th year (giving him an extra year in his development because of minimal minutes logged in his entire basketball career), I will start to accept that that is just who he is.
 
I was strung out on Favors the last two years, but this season brought me back to earth. He is still the same kid with a world of potential but who's fine with coasting unless his opponent has a name. If he ever matures enough to the point that he prepares for and cares about every game, he'll be incredible. We'll be incredible. But given his age, minutes logged, consistent role, etc., we are fastly approaching the career of unmet potential. I think next year will tell us all we need to know about him. I'm still hopeful and believing, but would be lying if I said I wasn't concerned.

If Kanter is still wildly inconsistent after his 5th year (giving him an extra year in his development because of minimal minutes logged in his entire basketball career), I will start to accept that that is just who he is.

I agree about Favors. I remember a couple of years ago thinking that Favors might never amount to much, because he didn't seem interested in laying it all out there. I thought his shy nature might be contributing negatively to his on-court effort. Then when he got the big contract I thought he might come out of his shell and start dominating. Now I don't know what to think. Maybe he needs a sports psychologist.

I think Kanter is kind of the opposite. When he's on fire he brings so much energy. But I think he is afraid of Corbin. I've been to a few games where I sat behind the bench and the way Kanter would focus on Corbin more than his game was a little freaky.

Hayward will thrive once the team matures and we get a new coach and another great player. We'd be crazy to let him go.
 
I agree about Favors. I remember a couple of years ago thinking that Favors might never amount to much, because he didn't seem interested in laying it all out there. I thought his shy nature might be contributing negatively to his on-court effort. Then when he got the big contract I thought he might come out of his shell and start dominating. Now I don't know what to think. Maybe he needs a sports psychologist.

I think Kanter is kind of the opposite. When he's on fire he brings so much energy. But I think he is afraid of Corbin. I've been to a few games where I sat behind the bench and the way Kanter would focus on Corbin more than his game was a little freaky.

Hayward will thrive once the team matures and we get a new coach and another great player. We'd be crazy to let him go.



I've noticed this as well, and it makes sense considering how many DNP's Corbin has given him in his career, and how his minutes and role on the team this year has been so up and down. He doesn't play as free as he used to, and in some ways it's good, but in most ways it is negative. He is constantly turning his head and looking at Corbin when he runs past him.
 
Kanter may be a fine Robin one day but Favors is not a Batman, that I am sure of by now!

Note to Kanter: No, not Robin Scherbatsky on defense.
 
I was strung out on Favors the last two years, but this season brought me back to earth. He is still the same kid with a world of potential but who's fine with coasting unless his opponent has a name. If he ever matures enough to the point that he prepares for and cares about every game, he'll be incredible. We'll be incredible. But given his age, minutes logged, consistent role, etc., we are fastly approaching the career of unmet potential. I think next year will tell us all we need to know about him. I'm still hopeful and believing, but would be lying if I said I wasn't concerned.

Unfortunately, I agree with this. Favors engagement in the game seems to come and go - sometimes in between shifts. The Indiana game sticks out in my mind. He came into the game and played like a beast for 9 minutes, was subbed out, came back in the 2nd and then coasted through the rest of the game. It was almost like, "OK, I had a good burn and we're gonna lose anyway so I'll just check out for the rest of the game".

I hate to make the comparision but the player who comes to mind is Derrick Coleman when he first came into the league. Every game he would start out, dunk, blocked shot, dunk, rebound, dunk, rebound....then the other team would make a run and he'd lose interest.

The other thing I find disturbing is he does not run the floor well at all. I can't remember the last time he was on a fast break let alone scored. We can blame Corbin for pacing all we want; but the fact is the kid is never a presence in transition.
 
If they can play together fine. If not kanter has to go.

Again, why? Let us say that they cannot play together. Then that more than likely means one didn't develop as much as we would want.

Then just have on back up the other...

Say Favors/Kanter at C. Kanter would have a fun time wiht back up bigs most nights.
 
Favors has actually improved his offense a lot this year, his next step is bringing his entire game together for consistent play.
 
Wow, I was getting blasted in another thread for being disappointed in Favors.

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I know it's cliche to say, but that^ is more of a coaching fix than player fix.

I completely agree but if we are using Corbin as the excuse for Favors then why does Kanter get so much hate?

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