LoPo
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We is the Utah Jazz. We aren't a contender.
Trading Conley for Jerami Grant doesn't tank us. What are you talking about? All the ideas are out there with the goal to make us (meaning the Utah Jazz) win.
Please make sense.
Trade for Ben Simmons
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Trading Conley for Jerami Grant doesn't tank us. What are you talking about? All the ideas are out there with the goal to make us (meaning the Utah Jazz) win.
Please make sense.
Trading Conley does tank us if we dont get a high level PG back.
You arent a Jazz fan. Dont use "we". I wasnt even referencing the Jazz when you said that.
LoPo
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Lol. Okay. Yeah, I hate the Jazz because I'm don't play fanboy to the players you are fanboy too.
We tank without Conley? Do you realize that outside of the Memphis series (#1 vs #8), that we have a better playoff record when Mike sits than when he plays?
Huge sample size
Or maybe he just isnt good at the things some people want him to be good at and he just needs to be on a team that let's him play his game?
He's an incredible offensive and defensive player.
You know Lopo is just being a difficult douchebag when he acts like Harris is untradeable when this man has made over 1000 terrible trade ideas in the trade machine.
LoPo
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Lol. If you could ever stay on topic and stop changing the conversation....
Everybody is tradeable. Sometimes you get extra value and sometimes you have to give extra value. Nobody wants Tobias without extra compensation.
Stay on topic
I think people are increasingly seeing Simmons the same way they saw Exum; the less one sees them play, the more one’s dreams or imaginations influence their own perception.
The fact of the matter is Ben Simmons is a built-in Achilles heal in the playoffs. He’s one of the most immature, arrogant, un-repentant, self-unaware dickhead players I have seen in my lifetime. Lastly, him and Gobert on the same team multiplies how vulnerable the team is to scouting.
Unless, simultaneously:
-he is the only non-spacer on the floor
-he is the center of the universe of the offense
-he is not expected to bring any positive leadership attributes and subsequently
-the actual leadership of the team comes from elsewhere (that are somehow simultaneously high-level off-ball shooters that can help run the offense when Simmons rests)
Then it won’t work out. WHY IN THE **** DO YOU THINK THE SIXERS GAVE UP? They know better than anyone how problematic he is and how difficult it is to build a champion around him.
The fact of the matter is Ben Simmons is a built-in Achilles heal in the playoffs. He’s one of the most immature, arrogant, un-repentant, self-unaware dickhead players I have seen in my lifetime. Lastly, him and Gobert on the same team multiplies how vulnerable the team is to scouting.
Unless, simultaneously:
-he is the only non-spacer on the floor
-he is the center of the universe of the offense
-he is not expected to bring any positive leadership attributes and subsequently
-the actual leadership of the team comes from elsewhere (that are somehow simultaneously high-level off-ball shooters that can help run the offense when Simmons rests)
Then it won’t work out. WHY IN THE **** DO YOU THINK THE SIXERS GAVE UP? They know better than anyone how problematic he is and how difficult it is to build a champion around him.
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