And I dont think high or low turnover is necessarily tied to IQ, especially for young players.
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Im not sure that video is a good sales pitch....
The Detroit coach would rather give Killian Hayes 30 mpg than Jaden Ivey at 20 mpg.
IDK, maybe he's just off his rocker, but Monty is widely considered one of the better coaches in the NBA.
IDK, maybe he's just off his rocker, but Monty is widely considered one of the better coaches in the NBA.
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I mean he was a rookie last season so playing out of control at times was kinda expected. And at the same time his explosiveness, athleticism and energy he can bring onto the floor is simply something you can't reach to other less talented guards like THT.
And I wouldn't take too much from his PT being cut as he's dealing with Monty, who's had similar beef with Austin Rivers in NOLA and Ayton in Phoenix. It has nothing to do with their talent or skills. It's just Monty. In some ways he's worse than Quin and would only play young guys who can defend.
Lmao, that's really the example you want to use?
And I said Ive been watching him this year. Detroit is my 2nd most watched team thus far.
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Maybe but low turnover high assist is absolutely an IQ thing. Not talking about Ivey specifically… when I’ve watched him I’ve generally been impressed but I’ve caught him on good nights.
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He didn't shoot the ball particularly well in this game but that's the whole point. When your shots aren't falling can you make the adjustment necessary to find other ways to have an impact on the game and that's exactly what Ivey did. We have guys who are veterans in this league and still couldn't figure this out. If guys are buying into Keynote who's currently shooting 38% from the floor then I don't know why they are hating on Ivey
The term "IQ" encapsulates a lot of things in basketball, but generally I think turnovers are in a way a positive. If I see a young average very few turnovers, I'm questioning if he can see the tight windows and is taking risk that would make him better.
But obviously there is some disconnect between coach/player with Ivey. He's not going out there and doing what the coach wants. Contrast that to Keyonte who has seemingly adapted his game to what the coach wants so he can get more time. That's a show of IQ to me.
Maybe it's Monty being too strict with what he wants, but even Sasser is starting to overtake Ivey.
Like if all it takes to get Ivey is a future first, I would do it, but I wouldnt think the Detroit FO would want to sell the 5th overall pick from last year for a future pick.
Like I get Monty is kind of a hard ***, but he's playing Ausar 32 mpg.
And if Austin Rivers and DeAndre Ayton are your examples of guys Monty has been hard on, then that's kind of a huge W for Monty's feel for choosing who to play/give touches to.
And if Austin Rivers and DeAndre Ayton are your examples of guys Monty has been hard on, then that's kind of a huge W for Monty's feel for choosing who to play/give touches to.
It really depends. Look what Wiseman went for and he was the 2nd overall pick.
But isnt that what Keyonte already does? If he is the PGotf then who is Ivey to us?