Trade Mitchell (Include Clarkson)

[Hearsky]

Rudy couldn't dominate a playoff series if we put 4 Kawhi Leonards around him. When are you guys going to realize he's a defensive monster who sets great screens?

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Do you find it ironic at all that a moderate amount of our defensive issues would go away if "Don" gave one **** about defense?

 

[LoPo]

Yeah, sure. The difference in the playoffs is you are playing the top teams who have time to target your team's weaknesses, which is defense for us, interestingly enough. The only reason we are competitive at all in the playoffs is Rudy. Take him out and we lose every single game. Playoffs or regular season. Take out Donovan or Conley and we have a chance, playoffs and regular season. Rudy is way more impactful than you understand.

We played one game last postseason without Don. It was game 1 at home as the 1 seed playing the 8 seed. He sat and we lost. We had everybody available but Don.

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[LoPo]

By these same standards, Mitchell who had awesome offensive outings but didn't even have any bright spots on defense, didn't dominate in the playoffs.

Such a stupid statement. Go learn the game of basketball. Don dominates often in the playoffs. There is no argument to say otherwise.

You know who never dominates - anybody else on our roster on either end of the floor.

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[Hekate]

Such a stupid statement. Go learn the game of basketball. Don dominates often in the playoffs. There is no argument to say otherwise.

You know who never dominates - anybody else on our roster on either end of the floor.

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It is your standards to be honest.

 

[LoPo]

It is your standards to be honest.

Don plays average playoff defense and superstar level offense. Truth.

Not a single person on our team steps up their game in the postseason outside of Don.


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[LogGrad98]

We played one game last postseason without Don. It was game 1 at home as the 1 seed playing the 8 seed. He sat and we lost. We had everybody available but Don.

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Single data point.

 

[LoPo]

Single data point.

4th in 2021 playoff scoring. 44% from 3. On a bad ankle.

We could do this all day. Don is an amazing playoff performer.

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[LogGrad98]

4th in 2021 playoff scoring. 44% from 3. On a bad ankle.

We could do this all day. Don is an amazing playoff performer.

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No one said he wasn't. He scores in bunches, and cannot stay in front of a scrub that hardly plays which cost us the series. There is more to success in the playoffs than scoring. He set records with 50 point games then allowed a guy nowhere near as dynamic as him to match him, and lost the series. Scoring is not the problem, stopping anyone else is. Sadly, we can do this all day.

 

[LoPo]

No one said he wasn't. He scores in bunches, and cannot stay in front of a scrub that hardly plays which cost us the series. There is more to success in the playoffs than scoring. He set records with 50 point games then allowed a guy nowhere near as dynamic as him to match him, and lost the series. Scoring is not the problem, stopping anyone else is. Sadly, we can do this all day.

So it's his job to score 50 AND stop Murray? No team is built that way.

He doesn't play bad postseason defense. He's average. Just like Lillard. Steph. Murray. Others.

Our playoff issues have nothing to do with Don. Or Rudy. It's that we don't have 3 good defenders around those 2.

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[LoPo]

No one said he wasn't. He scores in bunches, and cannot stay in front of a scrub that hardly plays which cost us the series. There is more to success in the playoffs than scoring. He set records with 50 point games then allowed a guy nowhere near as dynamic as him to match him, and lost the series. Scoring is not the problem, stopping anyone else is. Sadly, we can do this all day.

In Game 7 against Denver, Donovan not only scored like 20 points in the 3rd quarter to bring us back, he also guarded Murray. He completely shut him down.

When the 4th came, Don ran out of gas and nobody else stepped up their games on offense or defense.

MJ was a playoff loser (1-9) until he got to play with Pippen. Great offensive players need help on defense.

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[jazzfan1132]

It's easy put thread TRADE Mitchell now or trade Gobert.
How to make a team better that's a Point.
Yes his value is high but if we put him on the market now. We lost this year we're in rebuilt Mode. I would give this team a Chance.

 

[LogGrad98]

So it's his job to score 50 AND stop Murray? No team is built that way.

He doesn't play bad postseason defense. He's average. Just like Lillard. Steph. Murray. Others.

Our playoff issues have nothing to do with Don. Or Rudy. It's that we don't have 3 good defenders around those 2.

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No he needs to play passable defense. Hell just ok defense would have won us at least one of those series. Not a single championship player ever has only scored and played zero defense. Name one. We can go back quite a ways and see that all the main players on championship teams were 2 way players. That's ridiculous to say that his only job is scoring and **** playing any defense. He, and all of our other perimeter players, couldn't guard a traffic cone so we lost 2 series we should have won. That was due to defense, not offense. Maybe if he scored 40 and got 2 extra stops on Murray we win that series. It's monumentally stupid to say his only job is scoring and he shouldn't be expected to play any defense. That'll never get us to a championship.