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Trade Mitchell (Include Clarkson)

LoPo said:
I have said all along that Don should play better defense. It would help. However, we aren't losing playoff games because of anything Don is doing. He should be allowed to play average defense if he is going to play so well on the other end.

Steph plays average defense. Lillard. A ton of stars. They are protected by defensive perimeter specialists so they can do the work they do best. It's like blaming Shaq for sucking at the free throw line. He makes up for it elsewhere.

WE NEED PERIMETER DEFENDERS!


I would love for Don to be a combo of Marcus Smart and Donovan Mitchell, but that ain't reality.

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No you actually said he shouldn't have to play defense because he carries the offensive load. Almost verbatim.
 
mongoose01 said:
I think Don would be a fine defender if he was playing the point position and we had a bigger guard who could take on tough assignments or a wing that could do that as well… I don’t understand why Mitchell appears to have a reluctance to play the point position on the regular. You got to think that if he wanted to play the point he would be playing the point.


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He doesn't want to play defense. That's pretty clear. It's sad because at times he can lock it down. But he makes it clear that is not his job and he plays that way, and if he played the point regularly that would require facilitating and not just scoring. He's not about that.
 
Hekate said:
You keep moving the argument somewhere else. Mitchell is a terrible defender whether it's in the regular season or in the playoffs. Our best chance to win a playoff series is with him on the floor. These 2 things are both true. It's just that your standards aren't consistent.
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I've said the same thing all along.

Donovan is an average defender in the playoffs. Not great. Not atrocious.

Bitch about something else.

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LogGrad98 said:
Nah if you cared for facts you'd look it up. You just want your fluctuating narrative so that's on you.
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I like how when you lose the argument, it's because you say I changed the narrative.

Nobody in society will simply say - you're right, I'm wrong anymore.

Have some integrity

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mongoose01 said:
I think Don would be a fine defender if he was playing the point position and we had a bigger guard who could take on tough assignments or a wing that could do that as well… I don’t understand why Mitchell appears to have a reluctance to play the point position on the regular. You got to think that if he wanted to play the point he would be playing the point.


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Are you saying he doesn't like playing the point or defending the point? I'm not clear what you mean here.

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LoPo said:
I've said the same thing all along.

Donovan is an average defender in the playoffs. Not great. Not atrocious.

Bitch about something else.

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So you agree that Gobert is a great defender and more than average offensive player in the playoffs. Great.
 
LoPo said:
Are you saying he doesn't like playing the point or defending the point? I'm not clear what you mean here.

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I think he must have some reluctance to playing the point position. I think he would do fine at defending pg’s but he can’t have that assignment because we have Conley. I cant imagine we’d have traded for Conley and made him such a priority if Mitchell was willing to play pg. if Mitchell wanted to play the point position I think he’d be doing it.

If Mitchell doesn’t want to play the point I think it’s fine, but you gotta then figure out how he can be defending against pg’s or having defensive assignments that make sense.


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Hekate said:
Dude, if only you realized that I am just applying your standards for Mitchell to Rudy.

I don't really care about the comparison.
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You can't compare Rudy and Don for the playoffs. Rudy has never dominated.

I don't think it's that you don't care about the comparison; I think it's that you don't know what the word comparison means.

Not everything has to be Don or Rudy. This thread is an anti-Don thread and it's stupid.

THE ONLY REASON TO TRADE DON IS IF HE WANTS TO LEAVE. There are no basketball or business reasons that make any sense.

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mongoose01 said:
I think he must have some reluctance to playing the point position. I think he would do fine at defending pg’s but he can’t have that assignment because we have Conley. I cant imagine we’d have traded for Conley and made him such a priority if Mitchell was willing to play pg. if Mitchell wanted to play the point position I think he’d be doing it.

If Mitchell doesn’t want to play the point I think it’s fine, but you gotta then figure out how he can be defending against pg’s or having defensive assignments that make sense.


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That is the million question for me and has been since we started pursuing Conley.

Did Mitchell want our FO to pursue a PG or did the FO/Quin just feel like they wanted a PG next to Don?

I've always thought we needed Don at PG and a wing with him and Rudy able to run offense every once in a while. Don and Joe for instance. And a PG needed for the bench.

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