Trade Mitchell (Include Clarkson)

[oneye]

If Donovan Mitchell truly wants out of Utah, you have to trade him ASAP.

Our "window", is pretty much right now. Conley and Bojan are likely at their last peak. Rudy is about to be a 30 year old center on a max deal. Getting NY picks are great, but create a mediocre present and future if we just rely on them.

New York doesn't have the best assets, but they could facilitate a three team deal. And I personally feel that we owe it some to Donovan to send him where he wants to go and out of the West. If we just toss him to highest bidder, that would go back to that "stars" would never want to come here narrative.

We don't owe Donovan a ****ing thing.

 

[SteakNEggs]

I tried to say it, I tried to tell everyone the contract didn't matter and there was some obvious things that make the dude an utter and total snake. He's a worse snake that Hayward even dreamed of. My prediction was one more season, but as it becomes more and more clear he isn't long for being here to everyone now, it should be pretty obvious this summer is when he should be traded. The Jazz have the leverage right now, and they need to not let the contract get shorter or the rumors to get worse before proactively just ousting the guy. You know what is a lead weight around the neck of a franchises success? A star player with a foot out the door and everyone kind of knows it. Does this teams moral ever seem high? Do they seem like they're playing for anything big? No, because the guy at the top is an uncommitted snake and not so secretly everyone kinda knows it at this point. The FO needs to not ignore it and just proactively take care of it.

Pains me to say this but yup you were right.

 

[LoPo]

I tried to say it, I tried to tell everyone the contract didn't matter and there was some obvious things that make the dude an utter and total snake. He's a worse snake that Hayward even dreamed of. My prediction was one more season, but as it becomes more and more clear he isn't long for being here to everyone now, it should be pretty obvious this summer is when he should be traded. The Jazz have the leverage right now, and they need to not let the contract get shorter or the rumors to get worse before proactively just ousting the guy. You know what is a lead weight around the neck of a franchises success? A star player with a foot out the door and everyone kind of knows it. Does this teams moral ever seem high? Do they seem like they're playing for anything big? No, because the guy at the top is an uncommitted snake and not so secretly everyone kinda knows it at this point. The FO needs to not ignore it and just proactively take care of it.

I will give you your due if you end up being right that he has intended to leave all along no matter what.

But....

I don't think he leaves because of market size. I think he leaves because he doesn't get along with Rudy. I think their relationship sucks and they only go through the motions to try to make it work.

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[Ujfanatic]

If Mitchell really wants out, trade him for Dame. Then try to move Conley for a bigger off-ball guard.

 

[oneye]

I will give you your due if you end up being right that he has intended to leave all along no matter what.

But....

I don't think he leaves because of market size. I think he leaves because he doesn't get along with Rudy. I think their relationship sucks and they only go through the motions to try to make it work.

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mmmmmm.....I'll take the guy who has actually been committed to the franchise not the snake worried about his brand and crying about something every 5 minutes.

 

[oneye]

If Mitchell really wants out, trade him for Dame. Then try to move Conley for a bigger off-ball guard.

I like it. Dame appears like he could be heading down an injury ridden path but trading for Dame-or just hitting eject and starting over, are probably the options.

 

[SteakNEggs]

If Mitchell really wants out, trade him for Dame. Then try to move Conley for a bigger off-ball guard.

I like Dame but not at 31 years old. Trade him for another rising player or 1st round lottery draft picks. If we lose Mitchell I think it's time to blow it up.

 

[LoPo]

mmmmmm.....I'll take the guy who has actually been committed to the franchise not the snake worried about his brand and crying about something every 5 minutes.

Quit spreading lies. Donovan has never "not committed" to the franchise.

Which player has come out and bitched about his teammates to the media? Not Don.

Stop this **** man.

 

[Ujfanatic]

I like Dame but not at 31 years old. Trade him for another rising player or 1st round lottery draft picks. If we lose Mitchell I think it's time to blow it up.

I hear you and am torn. If Donovan were to be traded (and that's a big if), we could do a tear down and collect as many young assets as possible. However, that would be a horrible waste of Rudy Gobert's prime.

I know Dame is old and the injuries are of concern, but at 31 he fits the timeline of our current roster really well. He is very similar to Mitchell, but more efficient and a better passer, so we could plug him into what is working with this team and keep our window open for a few years. Plus, Dame can actually play the PG position so we wouldn't need to keep with an undersized back court if we could find a good trade for Conley.

 

[oneye]

Quit spreading lies. Donovan has never "not committed" to the franchise.

Which player has come out and bitched about his teammates to the media? Not Don.

Stop this **** man.

Nah, he just passive aggressively likes **** on social media then gets all annoyed when he gets asked about it.

 

[LoPo]

Nah, he just passive aggressively likes **** on social media then gets all annoyed when he gets asked about it.

Oh my gosh. I can't believe it. He's definitely gone if he likes something on social media. What an a-hole. I'm going to join your vendetta against him now.

 

[fallenchicken]

You don't have to trade Mitchell right now, he has multiple years left on his deal. His value will be the same next year as it is right now. For all we know, if it came to that, a better deal might be available. You guys need to not spazz out--these rumors are going to happen. They didn't come from mitchell's camp, or even from a media member known to be close to mitchell. these rumors happen with every star player all the time. It's all sport's media is. It gets you to click on things.

You only trade a blue chipper when you have no other choice, are out of time, and don't have any means to work it out. You try to make it work every other way first. We have plenty of times and options to try and make the team work. The right trade could be all it takes. This roster sucks on the margins--our main three guys are great, but we are getting bad play from the rest of the roster and have been injured.